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Its just not the same to do it that way! and way more expensive!
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Posted: 2003-06-18 15:05:42
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So unless SE decides to implement MIDP 2, or the raw socket in an updated firmware there will be no possibility for IRC/ICQ/Whatever java app that wants to use internet via sockets
Actually I think it would be possible to code some kind of Instant Messanger that uses http to connect to a proxy on a server which then "converts" (can't think of a better word right now) http requests etc to sockets.
Or am I wrong about this? So instead of coding just the IM one needs to code a proxy too.
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Posted: 2003-06-18 17:46:30
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It would be too inefficient to use http:// proxy. The proxy will not be able to PUSH data to the phone, so basically the phone has to check with proxy all the time. Plus there is a lot of traffic overhead.
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Posted: 2003-06-19 09:51:43
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On 2003-06-18 09:29:47, wrath000 wrote:
You can't run internet applications on t610, it does not support
socket://. So unless SE decides to implement MIDP 2, or the raw socket in an updated firmware there will be no possibility for IRC/ICQ/Whatever java app that wants to use internet via sockets
[ This Message was edited by: wrath000 on 2003-06-18 09:33 ]
This is not true. Isn't Webviewer a internet application? I use it all the time...
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Posted: 2003-06-19 10:55:27
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Internet viewer uses 'http:/', not 'socket://' Like I mentioned in another thread, T610 has http:// capability for JAVA, but http:/ capability in itself is extremely limited. Internet applications other then browsers (the ones that require opening and maintaining connection to different ports/communicate with different services) need 'socket:/' implementation, and that is precisely what T610 does not have
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Posted: 2003-06-19 11:03:19
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On 2003-06-19 09:51:43, wrath000 wrote:
It would be too inefficient to use http:// proxy. The proxy will not be able to PUSH data to the phone, so basically the phone has to check with proxy all the time. Plus there is a lot of traffic overhead.
I'm sad to say you're probably right.
Morphun supports sockets right? But their business model doesn't include freeware on the other hand. Bugger.. 8-(
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Posted: 2003-06-19 13:08:20
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sonyericsson usually release phones that are the most fully featured on the market, they're like the swiss army knife of mobile phones. java on SE phones is new so they've overlooked a few things like wrath000 mentioned. i guess i have faith in SE and they will get all this sorted via firmware updates, they will be once more the swiss army knife of even all java enabled phones
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Posted: 2003-06-20 01:15:33
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I just installed webviewer on my T610 and it works excellent to open webpages, so couldnt a MSN or IRC application connect the same way this one does?
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Posted: 2003-06-21 15:40:55
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Well, in fact, the T610 in China (which is called T618) has a preinstall Java App call "Tencent QQ (Java Ver)". Guys from China or HK will know that "Tencent QQ" is very similiar to ICQ and it has the biggest users amount in China. Tencet QQ for PC supports Socks:// and
Http://, I think this Java version use Http:// ...
If any Company develope a Java app like that, using "Http:// to Socks:// " and fully compatible with ICQ/IRC/MSN...... Well
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Posted: 2003-06-21 21:41:03
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I just checked the Java/MIDP documentation for SonyEricssons SDK. It does support UDP via a Datagram class. Not the best solution but a proxy switching sockets to datagrams could do it no? Not optimal but a little better than sockets via http.
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Posted: 2003-06-21 23:34:58
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