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dantec Posts: 264

I'm sitting here with my aunt's brand new 3650, and my Sony Ericsson T610 here in CA. Now usually in their house I can get 2 bars with my T610. Today i'm getting 3... more than what the 3650 has !

I know you guys are going to say 'Nokia...' (I would have too), but this nokia is a much larger phone and logically (if they were smart) they would implement a larger RF antenna.

Just my 2 cents...

- Just so you know this was a bit off topic and just a observation...
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Posted: 2003-07-17 04:16:13
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Vtheroceo Posts: 29

http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?id=275

just click there and click on the "850" that should explain everything

thats if you want to know alittle more about the 800 and 850 band

[ This Message was edited by: Vtheroceo on 2003-07-19 14:06 ]
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Posted: 2003-07-19 15:01:36
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torg Posts: 0

Bought a T610 in EU and brought it with me over to the states. Works just fine, got a T-Mobile data unlimited plan. But have not gotten a t-mobile network once, only cingular and occasionally at&t. The US is like a third world country when it comes to coverage, so I don't think it matters what phone you have honestly.
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Posted: 2003-07-22 20:20:45
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Juno017 Posts: 7

I have a friend that works for the FCC and he explained to me that those with TMobile won't benefit from using a T616 because TMobile doesn't own any bandwith in the 800MHz to 899MHz frequencies. Only Cingular and AT&T will have access to the new 850MHz bandwith because they are reusing their licenses for their 800's MHz frequencies. The 800 frequencies were used by AT&T and Cingular in their older networks, before the rollout of the 1900MHz frequency. The FCC has authorized them to convert their old 800 networks to the new GSM850 networks. TMobile never had any license for the 800's frequencies and the FCC has stopped giving out new licenses for those frequencies.
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Posted: 2003-07-23 11:44:42
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kpjimmy Posts: 13

I just bought an unlocked T616 from a third party vendor and just had that problem! So the new T616 will not work on the Tmobile network?? Am I understanding that correctly? When I called SE they verified that I can use the T616 in NY with tmobile *Sigh*. So what is the real deal? With the T616 being a triband phone, that does not matter here in the US?

Man this is confusing heh..


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Posted: 2003-08-05 19:36:51
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soda501 Posts: 3

Your T616 will work in the US with T-Mobile on their GSM1900 network. Or you can switch to Cingular, and the phone will work on their GSM850.
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Posted: 2003-08-05 19:44:38
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porterg Posts: 45

850mhz is really exclusive to Cingular, at least in the US at this time. Cingular is adding 850 gsm modules to all their towers nationwide, and will eventually terminate usage of its TDMA towers. MAny areas, including Kentucky, Indiana, and NJ have been converted. For Cingular, this allows us to offer the same equipment nationwide, as well as support the phones from market to market. Also, will allow Cingular to offer MMS, GPRS, and the other apps that are soley for gsm. Consider that most of the more advanced apps are being developed only for gsm, not tdma or cdma.
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Posted: 2003-08-07 00:18:46
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Juno017 Posts: 7

AT&T has GSM800 (850MHz) as well.
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Posted: 2003-08-07 22:48:52
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porterg Posts: 45

Really? I know they are converting all their towers to gsm 1900, but don't understand why they would do 850. I can see them (and T-Mobile) having phones that do 850, since Cingular is doing the conversions on our TDMA towers.
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Posted: 2003-08-09 15:39:26
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shawnmccall9 Posts: > 500

wireless providers get licenses to use wireless bandwidth, and each license usually covers a few counties (or parishes in Louisiana)

US wireless provider broadcast at either 850 mHz or 1900 mHz.

for any given licensing area, there are 2 850 licenses (the old analog licenses) and 6 PCS licenses (for digital). there may be more PCS providers in a given area if the bandwidth is subdivided; however, there are no more than 2 analog, 850 providers in a given area

Until recetnly, GSM has been exclusively on 1900. Over the past six months, Cingular and ATT have been developing use of GSM 850 with Cingular leading the way.

The T616 supports GSm 850, which will allow it to be used in more places in the US than the T610. T-Mobile users will not notice any difference with the two phones becuase they are not affected by the use of GSM 850 at this point..although who knows what the distant future holds in store


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Posted: 2003-08-12 03:06:54
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