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On 2003-07-23 23:11:12, lord viper wrote:
p800......................way too problematic. cant do anything properly, but tries to do a bit of everything. i'm fairly happy with my 8910i. although bluetooth connectivity isnt as good as p800.
but all p800 owners look on the bright side.....
you could stack your phones together and build a house!!!
Could you please support this? problems?...feel free to list them.
And to "Mr.Leader" is the name d'fuhrer or FUEHRER as you spelt it
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Posted: 2003-07-24 11:43:05
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sorry,butthe T68i was MUCH better than the p800 for Bluetooth connectivity. It just WORKED..
In fatc the T68i was probably the only phone that did just *work* (after all the upgrades!), albiet sometimes slowly. my T68 had the fewest problems of any phoen i have had. and keeps on running. even when my p800 takes a sickie.
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Posted: 2003-07-24 11:44:21
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as you say, when you add up all the stuff you've paid for the phone, accessories and software, it's very expensive. but, unlike most phones out there, the p800 is a real business tool and not just a toy, a media player or a game machine.
it is extremely capable if you really learn it and know how to tweak and configure it, and most importantly, enjoy tinkering with it. managed properly, it is extremely powerful and, at least in my case, completely trouble-free.
as for the expense, in my experience, my P800 has paid for itself thousands of times over. i've been able to work with little disruption thru my P800 when my laptop crashed (and windows crashes are millions of times more painful than symbian crashes!

), i can manage my servers anytime of the day even when i don't have my laptop with me, and most importantly, i've actually used my P800 quite a few times for sales presentation purposes instead of my laptop. this absolutely knocked the socks off my clients and closed the deals for me. now try doing that on any other phone!
the fact that my p800 can actually cover for the absence of my laptop at times never ceases to amaze me. so do i even look at any other phones anymore? hell no... it will have to be something that takes a quantum leap in technology to make me give up my p800, and not just a p810/900 with a better cam (which i almost never use anyway).
the p800 is not for everyone, and many people may not like it at all. but i gotta say, u definitely have to respect it.
end of story.
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Posted: 2003-07-24 12:05:48
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I was, and still a fan of the Nokia 9X10 series, having had two communicators. Yes, they were house-brick in size but they did more than any other phone on the market (and they can still send/receive faxes and edit Word/Excel files where the P800 cannot).
I've not had a P800 for four months and am delighted with it. Although being on a fairly old release of firmware I've had relatively few problems (none serious).
You can of course spend a great deal of money on this phone, but there are also a number of free apps out there that give the phone remarkable power. Take the Oggplayer, or VNC (PC remote control software, like PC Anywhere). How many phones do you know that can remotely control a PC?
Granted some of the functions don't go as far as devices that are SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR THE PURPOSE. The P800 is a jack of all trades, and although not a master of many it is still a contender.
At any one time I have the ability to:
- Check my diary
- set an alarm call
- play several games (including Gameboy and other emulations)
- check spelling (advanced dictionary)
- take a photo (and send it via MMS or email)
- FTP a file to/from a server
- browse the internet or check my email
- write a note and save it as a text file (almost as good as Word in my opinion)
- play music or video files
- view a list of tasks
- be online with MSN and ICQ
- record a voice memo
- remotely connect to one of several web servers I run
- check the time, weather or currency rate of a country
- have a variety of weights and measurement conversions at my fingertips
- have up to 128MB of storage space available (useful if you have the memory stick converter and someone wants to share a file)
- remotely control many infra-red devices
- oh, and make/receive telephone calls
How many other devices the size of a cigarette packet can claim to do all of this?
Accept the phone for what it is, not what it isn't.
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Posted: 2003-07-24 14:27:40
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im not gonna moan. ill just list my problems.
-sos or emergency calls only
-constant crashing
-inferior camera quality (when compared to 7650)
-and what really got to me was 'overcharging' which killed the battery.
i know to some people these problems may be somewhat trivial but i paid nearly £600 for it back in january. i could get a nicked top spec laptop for that!
anyway, having dumped my nr70v and t68i to switch to p800. i felt it seriously underperformed.
as i say many people will disagree or not even have experienced these problems. and im not going to throw a strop if anyone does disagree.
although i must say se users do present themselves as having inferior phones to nokia users.
for instance, if you look on dedicated nokia forums like nokiafree.org you dont really see threads like 'se will trash nokia' or 'nokia cheapskates'.
their threads are far more productive.
lets be real. nokia are the biggest mobile telecommunications producer in the world. se are trying to compete with THEM. not the other way round.
[ This Message was edited by: lord viper on 2003-07-24 22:53 ]
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Posted: 2003-07-24 23:51:07
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Given all the money we spent and that many of us use it as a serious business tool, why oh why did SE make it such a damn stupid colour?
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Posted: 2003-07-25 00:04:35
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windows crashing lots of times? nope not to me for i am using windows xp pro (most stable os to date) on my old p3-500 laptop and i have no problems whatsoever.
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Posted: 2003-07-25 00:18:24
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On 2003-07-24 23:51:07, lord viper wrote:
-inferior camera quality (when compared to 7650)
WTF have you been smoking? have you SEEN how $#itty the 7650 pictures are???
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Posted: 2003-07-25 00:29:10
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On 2003-07-25 00:18:24, d' fuhrer wrote:
windows crashing lots of times? nope not to me for i am using windows xp pro (most stable os to date) on my old p3-500 laptop and i have no problems whatsoever.
i use xp pro too and while it is stable and crashes much less frequently than older versions of windows, when it does crash, let me tell you, it does it big time!!!
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Posted: 2003-07-25 03:02:15
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rashkae
firstly i dont smoke it unless its purple.
secondly, anyone that knows about phones would not even question the cam quality of the 7650 compared to p800. do a search. even p800 owners cant defend it properly. i remember threads on esato saying-
"i hope se will fix camera with software update".
not gonna happen. its a hardware issue.
read initial reviews of p800 where pictures were posted to compare.
also who said xp pro was the most stable os?
never used an apple?
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Posted: 2003-07-25 11:55:41
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