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tomw Posts: 51

This would of course be technically possible. Writing a gateway application for internetbluetooth has probably already been done...
Getting the phone to know that there is the internet available via bluetooth would be the pain. As said, a java applet could be the answer, but guys, think of the speed...

Tom
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Posted: 2002-03-29 14:42:00
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hymie Posts: 249

At Cebit trade fair last week SE demonstrated some T68m with JAVA games installed on them!!

So its technically not a problem.. Just guess that you have to sacrifice lots of other features to free enough memory for running a JAVA VM.

SE also teamed up with Synergenix and iFone for implementing Java into their phones. So future SE phones will have the mophun Engine installed. More info on this can be found from here:
http://www.mophun.com


cheers,
hymie
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Posted: 2002-03-29 23:45:00
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jh67 Posts: > 500

Oskar >


I dont know who wrote that about wap over bluetooth, instead of using gprs.

But apparently its a bit misunderstood,..as Bluetooth is a personal area network,..not a network provided by an operator (like gprs,gsm).

Its 2 different things.

Bluetooth can be compared to e.g. WI-FI (802.11b). Although WIFI is much stronger and demands more power,..cant be used in mobile-phones.

Bluetooth is only for short-distance communication between 2 or more devices.

Bluetooth is in a way very limited, as the phones with bluetooth only reach about 10 metres.
Bluetooth at its highest (with a dongle at e.g. an office) will reach some 120-250 metres.

I've seen people asking about this before ; e.g. using bluetooth as a connection to wap and so on.

The problem, I think, is that people think that Bluetooth is a network like gprs.

Jan



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Posted: 2002-03-30 00:07:00
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oskar Posts: 173

@jh67:

No.. I have not misunderstood the difference.. The idea was to be able to use wap on the phone for free when I'm near my computer.. Maybe not very useful, but it would still be fun..

or maybe I have misunderstood it.. but in that case I have not yet understood that I have misunderstood it.. =)

/Oskar
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Posted: 2002-04-02 00:56:00
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qbctyny Posts: 12

To do this the phone (the bluetooth) needs to comply to certain bluetooth profiles, such as LAN Access profile- client. The T68 does not comply to the Bluetooth LANP profile.
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Posted: 2002-04-03 13:35:00
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Super G Posts: > 500

[quote]Could SE put in Java in our phone?[/phone]

Sure they probably could. But not in this phone
They seemed to have had quite much trouble putting MMS there already, so don't ask too much

Ok, I would definitely prefer to have Java than Bluetooth. Maybe they should have done something on this side... But I guess the problem is rather on the hardware side. T68's UI is somewhat "slow" (e.g. sms) and it seems SE has done some SW tricks to correct this in the T68i, but I don't think any SW trick would allow for Java to run on T68's hardware (??)

Though, I wouldn't be too surprised to see the return of T68i with Java support. But I don't think this would be too smart, and quite loyal towards their customers...
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Posted: 2002-04-03 13:49:00
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MSyn Posts: 2

Just to clarify what hymie wrote above. mophun is not a Java VM. mophun is a VM that is explicitly designed for game performance.
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Posted: 2002-04-03 15:25:00
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oskar Posts: 173

Quote:
On 2002-04-03 13:35, qbctyny wrote:
To do this the phone (the bluetooth) needs to comply to certain bluetooth profiles, such as LAN Access profile- client. The T68 does not comply to the Bluetooth LANP profile.


That bluetooth profile thing seems complicated.. I'd like to read more about it.. Anyone that can recommend any links to pages where I can learn more?

/Oskar
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Posted: 2002-04-03 16:38:00
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elma Posts: 6

I know its a old post but could not help myself

Blutooth for info on how it works try www.bluetooth.com

all the guidelines are there

but as for as the LAN profile goes its a shame the t68 does not have it but what it does have is DUN profile that allows wap sync over bluetooth for outlook
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Posted: 2002-08-02 08:09:00
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Eva-m00 Posts: 364

Surely the memory issue is not that big a concern on T68. You can make simple games well under 100kb not exactly graphics intensive! Imagine good brew pac man and defender etc... Yummy :-) This post was posted from a T68i
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Posted: 2002-08-02 09:38:00
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