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I can get a staff discount from a mate that works in Ericsson.
I get him to buy me the stuff from ESHOP.
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Posted: 2003-10-01 17:13:37
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lucky for some .... I need another T68i can he do a deal on one £140 (€205) at expansys
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Posted: 2003-10-01 19:26:58
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WOW!!!
I thought the US was "forgotten" by
but you guys...
I mean...
Don't know what to say but WOW!
Has any of tried to find out if there is a spesiffic reason for Irland to lose out like this?
If not, I'm sure willing to make a few phonecalls.
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Posted: 2003-10-01 20:14:00
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Yes help all you can ...i blame the ferry fares :-D
This message was posted from a T68i
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Posted: 2003-10-01 21:57:33
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I think the reason was because we got a bad batch of T10's and the resellers were getting pissed off having people coming in and getting them fixed.
Also SE phones were more expensive that Nokia to buy SIM Free so the operators over here decided to buy cheaper phones.
Another lad in an 02 shop told me that SE only ship in certain quantites and that 02 didnt want a load of SE phones that they mighten be able to sell.
I think it was for these reasons and more that the operators stopped selling SE phones.
But Meteor used to sell T39 and just checked there they are still selling the T68i.
The Operators in Ireland are screwing us bring time, its nearly like a cartel or something.
Like sending a text outside of Ireland cost 25 cent on both 02 & VF, I know for VF up to last year it cost the same as sending a text within ireland. The strange thing is 02 have also appeared to do the same thing as well. I think its just very suspicious.
Its no wonder that per head VF make more money on Irish customers than any other country by a LONG LONG way
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Posted: 2003-10-02 09:33:07
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The thing is, in ireland, it costs horrifically high to use your mobile phone. the contracts are so expensive and you dont even get a decent amount of minutes free for what you pay, and the phones they sell with the contracts, well, they might even be selling the phones more expensive for all the Things they are doing.
I find vodafone really expensive, and really bad, O2 not too much better.
i am on vodafone because i had a sim card from uk, and wasnt too keen on changing company (call it human inertia to do new stuff) and i also got a meteor Siemens m35 free when i signed up to a bank. i offloaded the m35 and have kept the meteor sim which i use from time to time without any trouble. a text message in the country costs 9c and out of the country 15 cents.
as for the t68i, its like i said, the newest SE around at €499.
I saw a shop where the t610 is sold at €509.sim free that is...
ireland is a forgotten island. too bad, we had good potential...
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Posted: 2003-10-02 19:23:46
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anyone have a cunning plan to make SE more popular therefore more cheeper in Ireland ???
we have to take over somehow ..block those nokias ..anyone got a plan....... anyone? ......hello
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Posted: 2003-10-02 20:02:11
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Prepaid mobile charge '200pc higher' than bill service
PAY-AS-YOU-GO mobile users are being charged up to four times (200pc) more than people using bill phones, an Oireachtas committee heard yesterday.
Ireland is a "nation of yappers and tappers" with the highest number of mobile phones per capita in Europe, but our costs are also the highest, James O'Flynn of the Consumers' Association of Ireland told the committee on communications.
Competition does not exist between the two main players, Vodafone and O2, which run fancy advertising campaigns but do not offer real differences on price or service, he said.
Phone companies argued that they could charge prepaid customers more for calls because they did not pay rental charges and were not tied to one network, but in reality most people did stick with the service they started with, he said.
Two-thirds of mobile phones in this country are prepaid, one of the highest levels in Europe, the committee was told.
Texting charges are also "outrageous" as even the lowest rates of 8 or 9c were way more than the actual costs of transmitting these messages which are "infinitesmally lower", said Mr O'Flynn.
More transparency on charges, lower prices and more competition were needed and the powers of the regulatory body Comreg should be enhanced to shut down mobile phone companies if they didn't behave, similar to the powers of its British counterpart, he said.
"The regulator needs to be the biggest bully on the patch to keep them all in line," he said.
Roaming charges for using your mobile abroad were also inexcusably high, at up to 20 times more than domestic rates, while some postpaid handsets were much cheaper in Britain than in Ireland, said Louise McBride of the CAI.
Comreg chairperson Etain Doyle said she was reviewing the level of competition in the Irish mobile retail market to see if it should be included in an EU list of markets that needed more regulation to provide effective competition.
She said that Irish people spent an average of €46 per month on mobile phones, the highest in the EU.
Meanwhile, the costly phone service of picture messaging is set to come down as Vodafone and O2 are to reduce charges in a bid to boost the use of the service.
Vodafone is slashing the cost of its picture messaging by 20c for the next three months and O2 looks set to follow with a similar promotion.
Aideen Sheehan
and Martha Kearns
Taken from Irish Independent Online
If that isnt bad enought take a look at how much VF & 02 make on us compared to the rest of europe.
http://www.comreg.ie/_fileupload/publications/ComReg03118.pdf
Is there anything we can do to stop getting ripped off???
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Posted: 2003-10-03 08:58:43
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we complain somehow !
..unfortunately there is a tendancy for the Irish to 'not complain' and put up with all the
cr@p that is thrown at them ...look at the price of houses, food in Dunnes, medical costs, car tax ...and insurance...
...too many people let those backscratching, corrupt, 'anti-competition', "if it was alright for my father then it's alright for me" thicko's in the Dail get away with too much.
people will not complain in this country and there is a perverse snobbishness of being proud of buying something that is more expensive than your neighbours !
have you ever told a shopkeeper or restaurant owner that their products are too expensive or are inferior in quality have you ever sent a meal back because it is
cr@p or refused to pay..? they look at you as if you have said something blasphemous !
the celtic tiger was a sham ..this country has a huge divide between rich and poor and large companies exploit that...
I love the fact that Tescos are making SuperQuinn and Dunnes reduce their prices ...hopefully TESCO will sell mobiles as it does in the UK ..that'll shock the VF, O2 and Meteor stores.
anyhow thats my rant for the day ....dont get me started on the fact I had to leave the pub earlier than normal last night because of those anally retentive thicko's have changed the licensing hours !!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 2003-10-03 13:07:35
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Well I have started to email Vodafone everyday and ask them loads of questions like why when your roaming that they charge 15% administration costs.? (its in the small print!!)
And why are you charged from making Toll free numbers when you are abroad.
Its so easy and it only takes a minute every day, at least it will piss them off and they have to answer your questions.
Its a pity Comreg cant force Vodafone/02 to reduce their charges,
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Posted: 2003-10-03 13:30:55
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