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Go to this site:
http://www.midi.org/about-midi/specinfo.shtml
The
T610 supports MIDI 1.0 (32 channels)
Greetz,
M-Jay
[ This Message was edited by: M-Jay on 2003-09-06 09:05 ]
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Posted: 2003-09-06 10:03:54
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@apotts
Its not sheet music... like I explained in my previous post its binary information... just data. I know this shit cos I study Music Tech.
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Posted: 2003-09-06 11:37:54
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WAV/MP3 or anything on the computer is binary information/data, just like Midi
I have to agree that Midi is more like sheet music.
Here is something similar but infinitely simpler: Speach/Voice Recognization . Does it work? Barely. And that's only recognizing a single voice when you speak in a certain way. Furthermore, the program only writes out the words for you. It doesn't read it out mimicking your voice and tone.
WAV/MP3 -> Midi is recognizing MULTIPLE voices (different musical instruments), and after recognition, it has to PLAY BACK the music with the exact tempo (varying speeds), varying degrees of loudness. That's why it's lousy.
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Posted: 2003-12-08 18:30:28
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@anonymous1
With respect, what does your binary data represent when sent to a midi interpretor? Instrument names, note lengths, rests and so on. In effect then, midi can be compared to sheet music in that it is a set of instructions rather than true digitally sampled sound. I accept that the analogy is not quite correct, but the rest of the posters here are simply trying to explain it in non technical terms.
So to re-iterate what everybody else has been saying, converting CD based music to midi is not impossible, it just doesn't work very well because TRUE midi music (.mid format, not .it or .mod format) has a limited number of 'instruments' that can be used. It's rather like a kiddie's musical keyboard, you get 200 different sounds or so to play with and that's it! This means that when your computer 'listens' to the CD (or .wav file, whatever), it has to choose the closest match from the instruments available on the list to try and represent what it's hearing.
As others have mentioned, there's also the issue of timing the notes and rests properly. Again, computers aren't very good at sussing this out just by 'listening' to a CD. All of the good ringtones that you hear were created from scratch by musicians using keyboards linked to computers that are running a type of software known as 'Trackers'.
So if you want your favourite song as a ringtone, you basically have two choices:
1. Wait for one of the many ringtone vendors to release it, or
2. Get a tracker program and make it yourself!
Trackers are not the easiest programs to get the hang of (I know, I've been using them for around six years!) but it can be good fun playing around with them non the less. There's an excellent free tracker called 'Modplug Tracker' available on the net. You can download it
here. You don't need a musical keyboard to use it, a mouse and PC keyboard will do.
Incidentally, Modplug Tracker is also excellent for editing midi ringtones. Have fun
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Posted: 2003-12-08 19:32:05
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there is NO WAY a wav file can be converted to a MIDI file !! you are crazy if you think there is!!
trackers are so oldskool man !!!!! cubase + vsts is the way to go - plus of course you can use it to make ringtones hehe
[ This Message was edited by: Church Decorator on 2003-12-09 07:14 ]
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Posted: 2003-12-09 08:11:51
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I thought cubase was just an advanced tracker? It does pretty much the same thing when composing midi's, doesn't it? Mind you, I've only ever used an old version of cubase light but it was certainly very similar to a tracker!
The point i'm making is that to my knowledge you can't use sampled sounds in a .mid file because they get substituted for standard midi instruments during the export process. If cubase can get round that somehow, then PLEASE GET ME A COPY lol
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Posted: 2003-12-09 11:23:59
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technically, yes u can vonvert mp3 or wav to midi files...... technically
the file format & hehaviour of the newly generated file is that of midi...
but... but.... u might as well deleted it straight away. those who did try would understand what i m tryingto say. the others? just try.... only once will be enuff.
cheers!
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Posted: 2003-12-09 11:30:35
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