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@dantec
Hi, I'm not sure that they did know.
All they saw was the bad boy (hard to break smoking in the toilets habit) using what appeared to be a mobile phone!
Perhaps this is an idea for a new product, a case that makes our P800 look like a blow up doll, so that when we are fiddling with it on aeroplanes, no one will think anything of it!
Fletche
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Posted: 2003-09-24 22:22:08
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I don't know about bluetooth, but I know Wi-Fi messes with the plane's systems. The US air marshalls started using palms with wi-fi to communicate with each other inside a plane, and they had to stop using it because it was it was messing up one of the plane's systems.
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Posted: 2003-09-24 22:33:43
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@o44wen
Sorry about the delay. I've been busy getting abuse thrown at me at 'Howard Blue Spoon Forum'.
I wonder what consultation and acceptance process SE went through when developing the flight mode?
I bounce this off SE!
Fletche
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Posted: 2003-09-24 22:36:59
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@ Fletche
Flight mode turns off all radio emitters in the phone. That kills both the GSM and the BT part, as both are based on radio waves.
And, yes, _all_ radio emitters are banned on commercial flights.
-KJ
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[ This Message was edited by: jevel on 2003-09-24 21:38 ]
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Posted: 2003-09-24 22:38:13
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http://www.newswireless.net/articles/030430-pinkerton.html
this is an article about bluetooth and airplanes
[ This Message was edited by: thirionremi on 2003-09-24 22:00 ]
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Posted: 2003-09-24 22:59:33
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Thanks Santa and Jevel.
So what we are saying is no WiFi, no Bluetooth!
Without wishing to split hairs, is IR OK?
This is enabled in flight mode!
Fletche
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Posted: 2003-09-24 23:00:07
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IR is based on light, and is safe. (At least we have no restrictions on it yet...)
-KJ
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Posted: 2003-09-24 23:02:41
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OK, I know that:
1. Electronics can't be on when landing and taking off, and
2. Phones or two-way pagers have to always be off or in flight mode during flight
But I thought there was an exception for 802.11b. I have read reports of Lufthansa and I believe United were offering or planning to offer broadband on intercontinental flights using 802.11b.
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Posted: 2003-09-24 23:12:15
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Pardon the language folks
But....
The idea that.....
"It doesn't matter. Mobiles are a big no-no.
It interfers with the pilots headsets "
is a MASSIVE load of BOLLLOX!! Period.
The mobile in itself is NOT a problem.
If it was then how comes to qoute " U can use laptops & minidisc players etc".
When the P800 is in Flight Mode it is in effect a laptop and minidisc player. In Flight Mode the radio frequency (RF) signals are disabled. The P800 is no longer a phone in Flight Mode; it's a PDA/multimedia device.
That kinda nonsense (i.e. mobiles interefere with pilot's headsets) is told my management to staff (who are more often than not ignorant of simple technology) and they then repeat it parrot fashion to passengers/customers.
To give an example. The Home Office here in the UK (Interior Ministry in other countries) bans the use of mobiles in many of its buildings. When I queried this, I was told by a security gaurd/toy cop that it's a security issue, mobiles play havoc with their alarm system.
It was only when I looked him in the eye and suggested that he must be some sort of idiot if he believes that to be the real reason (I mean the idea that a new alarm installation, installed in a government building is so shyte that it is susceptible to interference by mobiles is laughable) that he then admitted that what he told me is simply what he gets told!!!!
The other urban myth regarding mobiles is that you shouldnt use them in petrol stations as they may cause a fire. RUBBISH. A recent research paper that I saw debunks that myth.
Bluetooth is a difficult one really. SE have disabled it on their phone. Laptop manuafacturers give no warnings (that I am aware of, correct me if I am wrong) regarding the use of BT whilst in flight, and there is the fact that BT is not really a powerful signal compared with mobile RF or WiFi.
I have asked a friend of mine who chairs a mobile phone industry body to get back to me on this BT on flights thing. I will let you all know what he says.
@ Fabrizio
Yeah, you are right.
Some airlines are indeed offering WiFi inflight. But that is only after having made various alterations to the aircraft and after extensive safety checks.
And you will find that some airlines will offer this service on some aircraft only, namely the ones that have been suitably adapted.
[ This Message was edited by: plevyadophy on 2003-09-24 22:29 ]
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Posted: 2003-09-24 23:17:37
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last time i used it we crached
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Posted: 2003-09-24 23:22:13
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