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Pictures are on my digital camera. When I get home tonight I'll d/l them and post them. I think you'll be surprised how small the little thingy with the buttons on it is. I had my wife driving around with the windows open yesterday, and I had no trouble hearing her or the kids in the backseat through the included mike, which I had installed just above the rearview mirror in the middle of the ceiling.
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Posted: 2004-10-19 11:22:33
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OK, here's a pic. Not much to show, of course, but it gives a sense of scale. Sorry about the focus, etc. (The phone condom isn't mine, so please, no comments...)
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Posted: 2004-10-19 22:22:56
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Thanks for the pic Grimslade, and having the T610 there helps for scale.
i'm now confident to go for the HCB-300 - thanks again!!
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Posted: 2004-10-20 23:20:22
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Would this Car kit work with the P900 or is the P900 missing bluetooth handsfree option...?
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[ This Message was edited by: mince-inside on 2004-10-20 22:39 ]
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Posted: 2004-10-20 23:38:38
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I believe it supports the the headset profile as well as handsfree, but most people who've tried to use car handsfree kits w/P900 have expressed frustration with the experience; connection instability, etc. It's listed as compatible on the web site, but I've heard a few installation shops recommend against trying it.
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Posted: 2004-10-21 02:34:13
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@Grimslade
Cheers mate, T610 here we come...
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[ This Message was edited by: mince-inside on 2004-10-21 07:25 ]
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Posted: 2004-10-21 08:24:32
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Has anyone tried this with K700, as I am looking at diferent options for car kit, and what to now this works for other before being the first to try it.
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Posted: 2004-10-27 18:38:34
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so how tiz works? the caller's voice is heard tru the car's speakers?? radio/music is stop etc etc when theres a call..
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Posted: 2004-10-27 19:00:22
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would it be possible for you to take pictures of your installation or somehow post the installation manual on here?? i'm really interested in how it's installed...
thanks a lot
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Posted: 2004-10-27 19:03:28
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SharkO--I haven't yet, but I will try it with a K700, hopefully before the week is out. I'll let you know. I see no reason it shouldn't work fine.
@moogoo & 02--I would, but as I said, I chickened out and had a car audio shop do it. Before I wimped out though, I learned quite a bit. Here's what I know:
The kit comes with a small wiring harness and a speaker. It is possible to plug the unit directly into the supplied speaker and stow the speaker somewhere, like in the driver's-side footwell. If you do that, you only need to plug in a handful of things:
1.) Plug the speaker and the supplied mike into the command unit (which also needs to be hidden away somewhere like under the central console or in the footwell).
2.) Plug the button thing (that's the technical term; cf. the picture above for what I'm talking about) into the command unit and stick that onto your dash wherever it will fit (TBT is wired, so you'll need to thread the wires somewhere, of course...)
That leaves four wires: a black ground (earth) wire, which can be stuck to frame at any ground point you can find; a red 12V direct line, which needs constant power from the battery; a blue "ignition-sense" wire which basically needs 12V when the key is turned and 0v when not; and (optional) a yellow "telemute" wire. If you have a telemute pin on the back of your car stereo, hooking this in there will automatically mute the radio when you're on the phone (or the phone rings).
This is the stock setup, and if you go this way, your biggest challenge is finding constant 12V to tap into (some people use the lighter, which is usually tied to the ignition. But to do it right you want both constant 12v and ignition-sense 12v). This is where I chickened out; my car is six months old, and I just couldn't see myself chopping into my wiring harness and poking around with a multimeter looking for live wires.
All that said, I use a different setup (see below). The guy who reviewed it on mobile burn does it the way I describe above, and says the volume and sound-quality are A-OK.
But, as I said, I don't do it that way. I've bought the HCE-14 (I think?) Advanced Music Mute, which is somewhat misleadingly named since the yellow wire in the stock set up also mutes the music. What the HCE really does is pipe the sound from the handsfree through the stereo speakers. The HCE-14 (or whatever) is basically an extra wiring harness that you put between your radio and your speakers.
But... (confused yet?), the Advanced Music Mute won't do you much good unless you have ISO connectors on the back of your stereo (some do, some don't). If you don't, you might as well buy a third-party wiring harness, which will solve both the stereo-speaker problem and the power-supply problem at the same time. There are a few web sites that sell these; a complete harness runs 40 bucks or so, depending on the radio, etc.
So, to summarize: If you have a wiring harness for your car, and don't mind tearing up a lot of the fascia to run the wiring discreetly, you can probably get it done yourself. (Final point: Some cars are "pre-wired" for hands-free kits. If yours is, you probably have a connector somewhere behind the dash or glovebox into which you can plug or wire all of the connectors mentioned above. Whether or not you are prewired will depend on the age of the car as well as it's place in the product-line food-chain; the higher-end the car, the more likely it is to be prewired...)
Does that answer all your questions?

Seriously, if not, let me know. I spent a lot of time learning about all this, and since I didn't install it myself, I'd like to put it to some use, if only to help others.
Brian
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Posted: 2004-10-27 19:31:05
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