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That is absolute rubbish on behalf of paypal. I would contact your credit card company immediatly, irrelevant that a third party was involved.

Paypal are responsible to a degree for the dispatch of your purchase, therefore you should be covered under the 1974 act.

Call you card company ASAP, don't sit on your ass emailing people like so many people on hofo do, get some action, report this to every possible authority, your local police, there local police, the card company, and keep copies of absolutely everything you have sent and received.

In the UK we have a citizens advice bureau (free consumer legal advice) and a trading standards department (consumer affairs). Contact the equivalent of these in your own country.

Sit back and wait for something to happen will result in this person getting away with it again, until eventually he hits the wrong person.
Don't let it carry on, make sure you are the wrong person.


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Posted: 2004-05-02 20:48:02
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find out where the guys based you can get his address thorugh pay pal and ebay and when you have the address what you do from their depends on how much money you have.
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Posted: 2004-05-02 20:49:47
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Unlucky mate. Typical Pay-pal. What were they expecting: what kind of fraudster leaves the profit from his crime still in his paypal account???! I think they have some sort of maximum liability thing going on though...not sure how much that is. Good luck.


Edit: I recall checking out the site, after you'd started this thread. Paypal are nearly as bad as he is: they charge exorbitant rates...advertise him as a "verified member"....and then hang their honest customers out to dry.

[ This Message was edited by: Jim-bob on 2004-05-02 20:11 ]
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Posted: 2004-05-02 21:08:32
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Plus, no phone number on site from what I can find....ALWAYS a bad sign
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Posted: 2004-05-02 21:19:05
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That is too bad, i hope the best for you
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Posted: 2004-05-02 21:23:08
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Well I was tempted to buy my new P900 from technoleum, because of the price. But they do not have a phone number or street address. If there is no street address or phone number it has great potential for a scam. So I said to myself I rather pay more money and buy it from Sony direct and get a product with warranty from a reputable company. Plus if I want to have a repair done it is easier. I can not stress it more. No street addy, no phone #, be afraid, be very afraid.
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Posted: 2004-05-02 21:54:56
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Scams like this are one of several reasons not to buy anything expensive using PayPal. If you had used your credit card directly you would have been able to obtain a refund without question. My understanding (and I'm not a lawyer) is that you are not entitled to a refund from your cc company as the company you paid using your card (ie PayPal) has not been in breach of contract.

If a retailer cannot get a merchant account with Visa and Mastercard, you have to wonder whether they are financially robust as the bar for obtaining one is set pretty low. Also, never buy anything from a web site that has no telephone number or street address.

If all you are spending is £20 then you can take a chance, but if you are spending hundreds of pounds, check the retailer out properly. Anything that looks too good to be true, isn't true.

I'd be gutted to be in your position, but other than telling the police and publicising the scam on boards like this, there really isn't much you can do other than chalk it down to experience.
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Posted: 2004-05-02 22:52:15
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but many people do and will carry on buying hi priced items through the internet and make a huge saving a few people will sadly get conned the only way is to use your head a bit.
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Posted: 2004-05-02 22:55:49
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Sorry dude. :-(. Why don't you try contacting the feds? This message was posted from a T610
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Posted: 2004-05-02 23:55:15
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You can complain to the better business bureau. www.bbb.org
sometimes it helps.
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Posted: 2004-05-03 02:09:50
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