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vineet_d Posts: > 500

Tony, I guess sourceforge.net does contain a few apps but i wonder if they actually run on A780 because as @plasma said earlier that handhelds dont use a common linux KDE's lets see if mass could comeup with any new reviews
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Posted: 2004-10-25 08:32:08
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tonyitalian Posts: > 500

@ vineet
well i dont think the app's on sourceforge.net work on the a780 simply because the website does not mention anything about working on the a780! but i hope someone comes with something!
masseur had mentioned a few days back in this thread itself that he would try and see if he can help and find anything!
Lets hope for the best!

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Posted: 2004-10-25 08:41:28
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vineet_d Posts: > 500

ya dude, if he finds something then i guess i would also think of getting a moto A780 for myself
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Posted: 2004-10-25 08:44:55
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tonyitalian Posts: > 500

hehe yeh sure! i think it would a perfect phone for now! only 2 things stopping me from getting it are:
1. The lack of availibily for 3rd party apps
2. the memory size ( internal and external ). I read that it can only support upto 48mb on the external transflash memory card.
and i read it here

http://www.mobilegazette.com/motorola-a780.htm

I also just wrote an email to motorola clarifying the same, i hope they reply promptly!
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Posted: 2004-10-25 08:51:23
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tonyitalian Posts: > 500

well can anybody help me out here!!!!

do u know of any sites where i can buy or download applications for linux based smartphones??

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Posted: 2004-10-25 21:13:48
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tonyitalian Posts: > 500

sob sob
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Posted: 2004-10-26 09:51:28
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sco0bydo0byd0p3 Posts: 3

To answer your questions and clear up a few things,

the a760, a768i, e680 motorola phones all use an embedded version of linux. As far as kernel version well im not sure myself, but you can download the GPL'd kernel sources for the a760 here:http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=116309&package_id=126302
or just search for motorola linux phone in the search box at sourceforge.

Since the a760 was the first moto linux phone, i think that the other models would be based on similar architecture (sf arch: arm)

I havent download the tux kernel srcs yet, but when i do, i will begin to make some opensource apps.

Besides that, all of these phones support java midp 2.0
and the e680 and a780 both have 3d java libs. This is the idea in the phone world, to make the most out of one application or game, use java - since it will work on nearly all platforms. You can download the j2me sdk from sun, and www.motocoders.com will no doubt have some libs for u to play with. As for the objection to the phones eternal memory (TransFlash), this is not necassarily true - since tf is highly upgradable. For example - the moto e398 uses transflash for its external memory, and they are already selling them with 64m cards. I think these cards will max out at about 1G.

As for the comments about the different 'kdes', thats not true either, since none of these phones use kde, they use (as far as im aware) embedded Qt, possibly Qtopia (kde is based on the Qt widget set), There are other options popping up for this too, as with all linuxes, another desktop is comming into season - the GPE (Gnome Pocket Edition, i think is what it stands for) They havent tested it on arm processors yet, but if they build it properly, it wont take much hacking to make it work on the moto phones. So as you can see, in the _Future_ there _Will_ be more apps for these types of phones. Just look at the thousands and thousands of packages available to normal tux's today, just 7 years ago, there werent that many. Now there are probably more apps for tux (no doubt some overlapping projects - oo, koffice, kde, gnome) then there is for winblows or mac
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Posted: 2004-11-12 11:21:51
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sco0bydo0byd0p3 Posts: 3

PS
You might try looking up apps and games for
"Qt/Embedded"
or "Trolltech"
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Posted: 2004-11-12 11:34:41
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sco0bydo0byd0p3 Posts: 3

Now i have the full specs of the moto e680 - the phone that is best for me i think, i know a few more things -

not all of the phones run the arm processors - the e680 runs an intel xscale @300mhz. I guess, this could be the case with the series names - e-models run intel, a models run arm series. This wont make any difference for the 3d java apps, however, more complex tasks and applications, that call processor functions directly (very very goddam rare in any linux, as the kernel handles nearly all io) - lets take a native (not java) app that has been released for say an arm processor, if it needs to do some file/io or run direct calls to specific hardware, then id say that it wont be able to run properly on an intel specific platform. Of course if the sourcecode is released, then it is all sweet, since all you need is the kernel sources for that particular model, then just ./configure (on your computer) make. Then transfer the bins over to your home dir on your phone. (fyi i am making a lot of assumptions and simplifications here - for example - im assuming (cuz i simply dont know yet) that the embeded linux (montevista) uses the exact same file system architecture as that to any other linux - ie / /etc /root /home /usr) My first project is to port a terminal over to the Qt/Embedded system (found out e680 runs qtopia 2.0 as its GUI) Since there are already many, many terminal emulators built with Qt, i believe (and according to the trolltech website too) that porting a regular KDE app (qt) would basically just be a simple size adjustment of the window.
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Posted: 2004-12-07 16:47:59
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Davo_169 Posts: > 500

i just found out that you can get linux kits for your PS2
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Posted: 2004-12-08 04:16:50
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