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kristaga Posts: 141

There is an old mix in English.

Some words:
English (GB) - German (D) - Dutch (NL)
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Germany - Deutschland - Duitsland
The Netherlands - Niederland - Nederland

German - Deutsch - Duits
Dutch - Niederländisch - Nederlands

Because of this some English speaking people tend to mix The Netherlands and Germany, because of this Dutch - Deutsch look-alike thing.

Some use Holland for The Netherlands, but this is not correct. It is like saying England when you mean GB. Holland is just an area in The Netherlands.

The Dutch language (spoken in The Netherlands and Flandern in Belgium) is closely related to (High-) German. In North Germany there is a language called Low-German which is closer related to Dutch than German. The "High-" and "Low-" describes the area the German languages were spoken in. On the lowlaying plains in North Germany Low-German is spoken. High-German is spoken in the highlands more south in Germany. Variants of High German is spoken in Austria and Switzerland. Since Martin Luther made his translation of the bible into High-German this language has been the strongest in Germany and it is the language we know as German today, the official language of Germany. Low-German is slowly being pushed and subdued by the High-German language but it is still widely used in the most northern parts in Germany. All users are bi-lingual. Low-German is known as Platt-Deutsch or Nieder-Deutsch in German. Low-German was the language of the Hansa traders, and has therefore influenced the Nordic languages a lot, especially Danish, Norwegian and Swedish.

German and Dutch seperated 1000 years ago, by the second sound displacement. In southern areas the sound 't' changed into 'ss'. This is clear if you look at some words today:

GB - D - NL
water - Wasser - water
street - Strasse - straat

After this the separation of Germany and The Netherlands in different kingdoms made the difference stronger.

It is fun with languages. In the most northern parts of The Netherlands and Germany, ie. Friesland you have another language spoken. This is Frisian, which makes a link between English and Dutch. This language has several variants and one of them is quite strong and will probably survive even though it is influenced a lot from Dutch.

Kristian André


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[ This Message was edited by: kristaga on 2004-10-24 17:36 ]
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Posted: 2004-10-24 17:13:01
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absinthebri Posts: 476

East Prussia rulz! This message was posted from a T68i
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Posted: 2004-10-24 17:21:19
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Vlammetje Posts: > 500

almost 100% correct only one thing: 'strate' is not a word, it's 'straat' and where the Germans spell nouns with a capital we (the Dutch) do not.
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Posted: 2004-10-24 18:04:15
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kristaga Posts: 141

Oh, sorry. And thanks. I don't speak Dutch, only know a few words so it is easy to make mistakes... I will edit my previous post.
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Posted: 2004-10-24 18:35:00
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Atlis Posts: > 500

Another thing: deutsch = german, not germany, land = land, and Deutschland with capital letter guys ;-) please! This message was posted from a K700i
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Posted: 2004-10-24 18:47:18
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methylated_spirit Posts: > 500

Just next to Austria, mate.
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Posted: 2004-10-24 22:26:05
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BobaFett Posts: > 500

Ich liebe deutsche-land! This message was posted from a T68i
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Posted: 2004-10-24 22:40:09
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Lynx69 Posts: > 500

Ich sprache deutsch
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Posted: 2004-10-24 22:50:16
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BobaFett Posts: > 500

@lynx almost! Not sprache - it means "language" -, spreche is the correct word. This message was posted from a T68i
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Posted: 2004-10-24 23:06:27
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Vojo Posts: 26

Ganz meinerseits, ich spreche ein wenig Deutsch This message was posted from a T300
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Posted: 2004-10-24 23:08:53
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