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The electorial system has been getting a lot of criticism as not being democratic. However, this system does provide a stable government. It's a protection by giving each state power determined by population size. Just like in the EU.
EU - larger countries have more power.
USA - larger states have more power.
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Posted: 2004-11-04 23:45:40
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@baseballfanz- We need allies that will support the US. If everyone hates us, they won't come to our aid if we get attacked and stuff.
That was very interesting. In my English class we have to make a test in groups, and we were voting on the criteria for the tests, and one of the things won by a lot...one girl screamed out "what?! My vote doesn't even count!". My English teacher says "Welcome to Democracy."
I think they need to count those provisional votes. I do not quite understand the spoilage thing...they just throw the votes away? But, why?
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Posted: 2004-11-04 23:57:10
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On 2004-11-04 22:10:09, amagab wrote:
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Let the numbers speak for itself:
That was the point of the post, let voting numbers actually count.
Kerry and Gore must be pretty pleased, they're the only presidents who've served by proxy.
No matter what voting system is used someone is always going to cry foul, hopefully later biometrics will solve these issues and all you'll need is your retina and fingerprint to vote.. granted I'm sure people will say "but they cut off other peoples hands and stole their eyes to get spare votes" ..
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On 2004-11-05 11:28, baseballfanz wrote:
Another thing about Bush not being popular in other countries, who gives a $hit, we live in America that's what counts.
And yet threads ask why theres angst towards the US..
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Posted: 2004-11-05 02:13:02
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i am sure if bush had lost we would have seen the same stuff from the first thread with the words democrate replaced with republician and kerry replaced with bush.
i think if we looked objectivly both partys played dirty during the election. i aint no bush fan but if you believe the democrats fought a fair campaign and did nt try to stop repulicians voting or any of the other dirty tricks the republicans are accused of doing your as big a fool as bush.
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Posted: 2004-11-05 09:31:23
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I agree. If Kerry had won there would still be argument. Does anybody really think Bush would've given up just like that?
Think back four years though, did the long argument help the feeling of unity? Did it help the position of the 'president-to-be' in any way?
It did not.
And this year the division between the americans themselves is bigger than ever.
What good would it do to stretch out the count for weeks again? It would certainly increase tension, wouldn't it?
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On 2004-11-04 22:20:31, Yaesu wrote:
Bush maybe popular in America but he's not in other countries around the world
yes... and??? Other countires around the world do not vote the american president... or any other president but their own. So that argument really is quite useless.
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Posted: 2004-11-05 09:49:33
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On 2004-11-04 22:20:31, Yaesu wrote:
Bush maybe popular in America but he's not in other countries around the world
yes... and??? Other countires around the world do not vote the american president... or any other president but their own. So that argument really is quite useless.
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I'm sure itll matter though when people start getting bombed due to bush's attitude and actions towards other nations.
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Posted: 2004-11-05 10:16:59
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On 2004-11-04 23:19:14, Yaesu wrote:
Democrocy where the American electorial system is so corrupt
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You should try coming here and telling that to the families of the British soldiers that where murdered to appease your "president" and loot Iraq’s oil to fuel your environment killing 8ltr Hummers!
Anyway I hope you'll feel just as pleased and proud when he reinstates the draft. Then you might get to go out there and kill a few Aye-rakis yourself. Wont that be fun?!?!
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Posted: 2004-11-05 10:27:46
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how dare you use the deaths of your fellow countrymen to propagate this assinnine anti amerirican sentiment. Dont forget that most nations belonging to the U.N decided not to "appease" president bush, Britain got into bed with a madman for their own reasons.
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Posted: 2004-11-05 16:11:16
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@axxxr - C'mon mate . . . you really don't want me to LEAVE esato now, do you
As it is all over now, assuming that your report was 100% accurate, why would Kerry 'concede' to Bush in the 1st place
As Gore did NOT to him (Bush) back then, and it took some weeks before finally proclaiming Bush as the winner in 2000 ! I WON . . . let's just keep it that way . . . OK, for the LOVE of the game, I will still be LEAVING Esato "had" Bush been 'IMPEACHED' from the White House in the next 4 years mate . . . taken out by Supreme Court's decision/rallies/ or by FORCE !
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Posted: 2004-11-05 16:20:19
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I am SO disappointed that the Americans voted for Bush once again... I'm really shocked. How can they do this? Me, as a german woman can't understand that. Everything I heard about Bush in the news, newspapers, internet, films (9"11) and books was unbelievably shocking.
How can a person who had not been elected for 4 years ago rule a country? And why do the Americans want to have a president who is responsable for so many dead people and victims? He started an unnecessary war and everybody knew that he just wanted the oil from Iraq... (because the culprits from the 11th September did NOT came from Iraq!!!!!!!!!)
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Posted: 2004-11-06 13:32:07
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