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is Orange going to launch 3G network in India?
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Posted: 2004-12-12 17:40:36
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I will repeat my opinion on 3G... I feel 3G is dead. It died way before it ever came out. Why? Developers were too focused on data speed, and forgot the ONE thing that made GSM attractive to the world... upgrading was transparent to the end users.
People who don't use data services and all... or are on a tight budget, can still use 1st gen GSM handsets... with 1st gen SIMs.
GSM is very flexible and caters to ALL end users.
EDGE is just a piggy-back upgrade... old users who don't want or need data services don't need to upgrade anything... but when they do want faster data... they just need to buy a new handset and inform their provider.
Old handsets, old SIMs... all still work with current 2.5G networks. New handsets, still work with 1G networks... minus the data services.
Current GSM networks are so flexible that it's so convenient for end users.
And as much as I'd LOOOVE to have WiFi speeds on my mobile phone... I feel EDGE speeds are fast enough, and a good balance of performance, price, and battery consumption.
Unless price and battery life can be addressed properly by 3G... 3G will be dead in the water once they launch it... just like Iridium and Globalstar. Great ideas... not enough research... too much corporate pressure to find the 'next GSM'. If they can give us 1Mbps speeds and not affect our battery life, at dirt cheap data rates... then fine... give us a new "standard"... til then... it's all just marketing BS... and some greedy corporate plan to cash in on the GSM boat they all missed (but are too proud to admit it) !!! HAHAHAHAHA!
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Posted: 2004-12-12 17:43:42
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So what u think the v800 is a hit or a miss for se.
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Posted: 2004-12-12 17:51:35
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i hate to say this but gprs is 2.5G and edge is classed as 2.75G. none of the networks in the UK will be adding this as they have paid huge amounts for the 3G licenses... Vodafone has spent about 7Billion on its 3G network (thats inluding licenses) In the UK 3G is only just starting to take off. Trust me it will take off once reliable handsets and competitive pricing has launched and network coverage reaches the magical 99.9% outdoor and indoor marker.
4G is coming but not until around 2007-2008 in eastern countries... us in the UK will have to wait until the goverment release the licenses but i dont see it being taken up straight away on a consumer level. More of a business user level.
And in the UK new phones wont work with 1G networks as they were analogue and the 2G upwards are digital.
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Posted: 2004-12-12 17:55:02
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@jcplacson: I agree that 3g is not as attractive as the hype that preceeded it. The point about seamless upgrade is one vital point. There are other issues too, but it can be argued that those issues exist bcos the technology is new.
I dont look forward much to 3g services myself. But who knows?
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Posted: 2004-12-12 17:57:00
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in the uk i dont think we will have a chose if we want 3g or to say with 2g. the 4 companys have paid so much for lisenses they need pay back and the only way to get pay back is to get everyone on 3g.
i have a feeling they will do what they are doing with analouge tv and that is switch it off on a given date wehter you like it or not.
once all 4 networks have 3 g up and running and covering most of the country i believe they will annonce the shut down of the 2g network.
a lot of people change there phones every year so in reality only a small amount of people would suffer and 3g phones at this moment in time are dirt cheap starting from £30 on payg
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Posted: 2004-12-12 19:29:15
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@jplacson
I disagree that 3G is 'dead', voda_jon raises a very important point to back up my opinion, the cost of 3G. The networks have simply spent too much money on 3G to allow it to be a failure, they will promote and push it as much as they can. EDGE is not an option being seriously considered in Western Europe for precisely this reason, it would be too much competition for 3G.
The problems with handsets are now largely being solved, the latest generation of 3G handsets are, in fcat, not all that much different to 2.5G handsets in terms of both battery performance and size. I would imagine that within the next year we shall see 3G capturing an ever larger slice of the mobile market in Western Europe.
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Posted: 2004-12-12 20:19:25
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One important point everyone is missing is the fact 3G was originally conceived to cope with the demand for greater network capacity. By this I mean the networks found that existing infrastructure for 2G networks was not efficicient enough to cope with the ever increasing demand for voice (yes peeps, voice!) calls and hence 3G was developed. One of added bonus 3G bought along with it was the ability to have increased data speeds! Obviously the networks play on the data and services this will enable as they are more marketable to consumers and businesses! 3G will work as in this industry the trends are set by the networks not the consumer...remember (as previosly mentioned in another post) analogue frequencies were switched off and barely anyone noticed!...the networks will, at some point in the future, only sell handsets that utilize UMTS (3G) and offer free upgrades to get everyone using them!!!
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Posted: 2004-12-12 20:44:13
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Guys u would be surprised how is EDGE becoming popular in my country. I used only GPRS net connection, but now we have EDGE nearly everywhere and the difference between 4 - 5.5kb/s and 22 - 29kb/s download is unbelievable!
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Posted: 2004-12-12 21:02:21
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I forsee a situation in which countries that are yet to lean towards 3g may actually frog-leap over it to 4g IF developed fast enough.
It does seem that the greatest factor likely to make 3g succeed where it has already been adopted is the high level of finances injected into takng it up.
Hopefully, other countries will learn one or two things from the largely European experience.
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Posted: 2004-12-12 21:36:00
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