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Oh, and to the author of the article on the 'inquirer' link above...how STUPID is that??? Not all phones are e-mail enabled... even the T68i cannot view attachments... what kind of crippled analysis was that??? 'Who will use MMS'???? DUH, everyone who doesn't have a 7650 or P800???
MMS is a mobile standard...it adapts to the receiver of the message... B&W screen? It will convert images to grayscale. No MMS capable handset? It will send you an html link for you to visit. THAT is the beauty of MMS... not to mention the convenience of taking pictures and sending them instantly!
It's the next best thing to video phones.
I think video phones will be a reality soon... but I wouldn't use it as often as SMS/voice. Who wants their boss to know where you REALLY are when you're late for work? Video phones have their place. As does SMS, EMS, and MMS. The fact that there are still analog phones out there... I think it's a big enough market for everyone to play nice.
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Posted: 2002-07-27 08:33:00
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MMS maybe a new mobile standard, but even in Europe, people still don't use EMS to its capabilities and still stick mostly to plain old SMS.
They keep trying to make mobile phones more attractive for people to buy, but the truth to matter is, most people don't want to pay extra for something so useless (Although, I would just for the hell of it, hehe).
And as for videophones, why? We may have the capabilities to provide this technology to the masses, but it's such crap right now, its not even worth the extra $$$.
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Posted: 2002-07-27 11:47:00
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I agree, mobile phone manufacturers today spend a lot of effort in producing fancy smartphones like P800 or 7650, inventing technologies like MMS, WAP etc, but who is really going to use that? Only a relatively small number of tech geeks and enthusiasts. Most of people still buy mobile phones (and will buy them for quite some tome in the future) just to make phone calls and maybe use SMS. Phone companies and operators (in order to make more money) are trying hard to persuade users that they need more than that, but do they really?
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Posted: 2002-07-27 13:56:00
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The entire point of producing new wireless mediums to transmit data is an effort to evolve data to wireless instead of fixed line. Ideally, the world will move towards a wireless standard. GSM has been proven in most of the world already and with T-mobile consolidating the entire services industry we can expect global low-cost service to occur soon on the GSM networks. The P800 is striving to be a great 2.5G phone using GSM and GPRS networks. While MMS will be rather expensive, the e-mail client and added features should boost cost efficiency through the roof. When people start to realize that a wireless connection can be just as fast and inexpensive as their fixed line connection, they will switch to wireless.
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Posted: 2002-07-27 16:01:00
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@meiwing:
This is exaclty the kind of thing mobile operators would like you to believe. Wireless is cool, wireless is the future, you have to go wireless or you'll be left behind. But is this really the case?
Fixed line connections are already here. They are very fast, reliable and quite cheap. And if you have a wired office and a wired home, why would you need wireless? To read email while you're driving to work? To surf the web while you're taking a walk? I don't really need that stuff, thank you. And neither do most of the people out there (sure, there are exceptions but they are a great minority). Mobile phones are great for being just that: phones that you can carry with you to be available everywhere you go. But, a color display on your phone? Surfing the Web on your phone? Taking pictures with it? Sure, being notified that you have new email is nice, but a 384Kbps link to your phone!?! Come on! And videotelephony? You allready have videophones for fixed lines (ISDN I think), but is anybody using them? No! Because they don't need them. And if they don't need them for fixed lines, why would they need them for wireless ones?
So why all this hype about wireless, smartphones and 3G? Well, it's simple. Telecoms can't really increase their profit from fixed connections anymore, so they are telling you that fixed connections are crap and that everybody is going wireless and so should you. Mobile manufacuters can't really sell a lot of normal mobile phones anymore (because everybody has them already) so they are trying to persuade you that you need smartphones with color screens and MMS and web browsers and integrated cameras and all that crap. But, do you?
Wireless connections will never be as fast and inexpensive as fixed line connections like you say. That is just ridiculous. There is absolutely
no good reason why people should switch from wired to wireless. There are, in fact, reasons NOT to switch (speed, reliability, price, ...). So, don't believe big companies when they are tellling you that wireless is the future. They are just trying to squeeze more money out of you by selling you something new.
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Posted: 2002-07-27 17:20:00
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I totally agree... despite the fact that I'm part of the minority. I use my WAP, GPRS and mobile email a lot. It's not THAT expensive. As long as you're not the type to download files over your celfone... why on earth would you be happy with 40K/s 'PEAK' DL anyway???
I use EMS a lot since it costs just as much as SMS, MMS... well... rarely. I used it when it first came out, then it loses it's appeal after the first 10 messages sent.
I'd like to have the full 115K GPRS speed... even if I'll hardly use it... just to know that it's there.
I can't wait for the P800... but I know that most people out there are still using the Nokia 3310, or the SE T65/R600
I'm happy with my T68, I'll be happy with my P800.... I don't expect EVERYONE to have one, need one, or even want one. That's the beauty of choice!
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Posted: 2002-07-27 18:23:00
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that's really messed up...too bad big business...lots of 'em, let it go thier heads
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Posted: 2002-07-27 19:52:00
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Hi guys,
trust me, I have an ipaq with my t68 once. The statistics are as follow when I'm out:
Brought T68 with: 100% of the time
Brought ipaq with me: 40% of the time
There you have it. Found myself in situations where ipaq is simply too "big" to bring along (like when I'm casual in sports shorts or bermudas and t-shirts). T68? no problem, my ICT-13 clips it in place. Sometimes I don't even notice it was with me.
I have since sold my ipaq and rely on my T68. Perhaps its just these few functions that I need - calendar (a must for me), calculator, notes, MP3 (with attachment) and image viewer (of my 3-yr old daughter). Hey, I even had an animated gif of my girl and my wife. When displayed to friends (though at slow frame rate), I can see how impressed they were...
When the P800 comes out, these excellent boundaries will be expanded beyond... can't wait...
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Posted: 2002-07-29 04:13:00
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Think the MMS argument through.
OK, you're on holiday, or out with friends, and you snap a photo or two with your P800 or Communicam. You would either keep them on your phone or, if you're abroad, email them home for people to see. How often can you see people wanting to send live photos between two phones?
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Posted: 2002-07-29 12:52:00
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