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sapporobaby Posts: > 500

Well, what would you "innovation challenged" people like to see?

How many phones have you designed?
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Posted: 2005-04-23 19:55:16
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vanquish Posts: > 500

And where are the statistics and facts to back this up?

Exactly. This is either a good gag, or a stupid thread...
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Posted: 2005-04-23 19:55:52
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slattery69 Posts: > 500

i aint complaining just agreeing with some of barts comments. i dont think most of the phone makers are innovators its always evolution nothing wrong with that.
its all goes in cylces you get a period of innovation and periods of evolution at the min its mostly evolution, but around the next corner there maybe be so innovation could be from se could be from nokia or someone noone has even thought or heard of
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Posted: 2005-04-23 20:08:53
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Yazan24 Posts: > 500

sapporobaby- Im not paid to provide innovative wireless technology,

I do my job well and Im good at it, and Im innovative in the field I am in, so I dont think U should be comparing the average joe to a major mobile company.

Vanquish, innovation cannot be measured in sales or statistics, or Nokia would be the most innovative company, but everyone knows its due to marketing and releasing a shitload of phones at a time, intelligent method, but doesnt provide the public with innovative technology, and this isnt a stupid thread or a gag, im serious.

Bart and Slattery, thanks for saying what I was just preparing to say, the T68i is based on the T68m an INNOVATIVE product by ERICSSON, and so is the P800, the P900 and P910 are just touch ups of an innovative product by ERICSSON.

The accessories have been very well built and feature packed, but those are accessories and are only a small peice of the picture.

If your going to justy defend SE blindly like most ignorant people on this forum do, this isnt the thread for you, I just wanted to discuss the lack of innovative technology being provided by SE.

Oh and biodegrable phones arent innovative, they utilize existing technology (biodegradable plastics) and implement them in phones, and itll probably only be available to Japan, so its not that important.
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Posted: 2005-04-23 20:16:58
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bart Posts: > 500

those bio phones will never see the market, a few years ago moto was working on a disposeble pre pay phone, once your out of money you can just trow it away. there where several prototypes, inovation? abit, but it never hit the market (thank god).

most of you guys don't really know what inovation is.
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Posted: 2005-04-23 20:29:10
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vanquish Posts: > 500

Innovation?

what defines innovation?

The S700i had an innovative swivel design. The T610 became innovative and thus won an award. The V800 was innovative because it had a rotating 3g camera and 65k external colour screen. The W800i is innovative because it is the first official music playing phone. The Z200 was innovative because of its striking looks and external screen. The T630 was innovative because of its crystal clear screen. The Z600 was innovative because of its weird clamshell design.

Sony Ericsson are an innovative company. Ericsson were ASWELL.

The T68m is perhaps the only innovative phone they produced. Besides some bluetooth and GPRS mono phones.

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Posted: 2005-04-23 20:33:19
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ori Posts: 396

First – we don’t need innovations. And every one knows how hard it is to make money from innovation, take look at NEONODE. If you make high quality products with high end features like SE does and if you are always on the top of technology, you will have no problems. But if you are going to create something really innovative, you will have to spend a lot of money with no guarantee for reward. And I bet you know what happens with the company, which fails even once with their innovative something.
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Posted: 2005-04-23 20:35:33
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vanquish Posts: > 500

Is innovation a comparison?

Is innovation something never seen before?


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Posted: 2005-04-23 20:36:22
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bart Posts: > 500

S700 inovation design? it excisted along time ago, and it wasn't really a big hit.
the T610 won the award for best cellphone, not for inovation

ericsson not innovative? good god, don't say such a think, you have no idea what ericsson build, you don't know how many unseen phones they had in the background.
ericsson had a phone for everbody, the only problem was that the phones were to advanced for there time.
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Posted: 2005-04-23 20:36:36
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ori Posts: 396

Second – what innovations are you talking about? What do you want to call it Innovation? A 3D mega super blaster microwave 4G phone with fuel cells?

Do you know what makes an Innovation an Innovation? When you have something that you could just dream about yesterday, that is an innovation. But when it comes to true it doesn’t look like something special, that’s the whole thing.

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Posted: 2005-04-23 20:40:45
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