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Ok if you add all the subway it stretches from NY to Florida. And Ok it is underground and difficult.
But there is no continuous coverage from NY to Florida on the surface too. (I had drive all the way and up) it is all flat no obstacles but any coverage. And also no continuous coverage in NY surface or in the buldings.

I had to rent a Motorola (non GSM) (about half the size of brick which sucked too. I had to charge the bastard all the time. Still the calls dropped? No international callerID no sms etc etc. (this is like we had in the analog days)

Don’t blame size or the structure Trough out Europe on the mountain or on top of a sky scraper on the road you are covered more than 95% average with a service.

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Posted: 2002-08-18 08:25:00
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Well, if that's true, and CDMA is overtaking GSM in the USA... then that is sad. The US will continue to be in the stoneage when it comes to mobile telecom since they are the only ones using that technology.

When every other country is using and developing systems for GSM... handsets, services, terminals, etc... the US will be stuck with their CDMA crap which will offer nothing over GSM, will cost more, have no SIM card, will not allow users to use their handsets abroad, and will be years between new handset models. :s
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Posted: 2002-08-18 08:57:00
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On the other hand, maybe the US wants to be advanced but different (Like Japan)? I really don't know. I do know they are implementing tracking devices on cell phones and be able to listen in to specific calls (Which is in a way, kind of a bad thing ). As I have showed on my other topic about Sprint PCS, those phones are pretty advanced to me (I have not seen a GSM phone quite like it), and I've just watched a Nextel commercial just now showing off there color phone with a stupid walkietalkie.

I personally prefer GSM just because of the simplicity, ease of use and almost world wide availability, but CDMA is in essence more advanced but difficult with the service because there is no SIM card. I truly want a worldwide phone, but I don't see that happening with these guys going one way, the other guys going another way, even though we have the capability of putting up a full nation wide GSM coverage...

Oh by the way, lets not forget that most GSM systems and GSM phones are also built quite a lot in the US, and exported around the world (Texas Instruments comes to mind).
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Posted: 2002-08-18 11:43:00
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hello

GSM has been in australia for ages, and only recently have they been building a CDMA network. CDMA has a far larger range, and therefore its needed in Australia's rural areas.

I actually own 2 phones, one CDMA, one GSM, and i find the CDMA gets far better reception anywhere.

Unlike what you've been saying, i've heard that the US is converting back to GSM, and GSM is expaning majorly.

You might have noticed, but only recently companies such as nokia any sony/ericsson are make tri band phones.

Vodafone, i think, owns, or owns a major chunk of one of the major US telcos, and for international roaming reasons, they are converting to GSM. Im not sure if thats just gosip.

You need to remember some of the mjor markets of mobiles dont use GSM, such as japan, US, canada, chili.

Anyway - hope my info helps

thanks
Seb (newbie!)
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Posted: 2002-08-19 14:38:00
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Bjerkebanen- still looking forward to check out your pic as mentioned. Just curious abt the pic quality. I'm considering getting the MCA-20 (or 25?)

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Posted: 2002-08-19 15:13:00
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Sprint PCS has the largest mobile network in the US, and there systems are all based on CDMA and TDMA. Not only are they larger, they are also expanding a great deal.

GSM is nothing compared to Sprint, and if GSM were to expand, they have Verizon and Nextel to try and topple over as well, which both have far larger networks than any GSM providers.



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Posted: 2002-08-22 07:23:00
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DeltaYoda I will have to dissagree with you. Sprint's coverage is worse than the GSM coverage. See, Sprint uses CDMA 1900 MHz, and that's it. Their customers cannot use analog, though their phones support it, Sprint's network doesn't allow it. And where they have no towers you roam either in the Verizon network or the Cingular network. As far as the biggest network in USA the gold goes to Verizon.


Someone mentioned here something about the bad GSM coverage in NYC. Having been there many times, using TDMA CDMA and GSM phones, I must say that CDMA has been exemplary there. However I have read a review a while ago about the T68 not working very well in NYC. My T28 worked fine there.

the GSM network in USA is slowly expanding. There are many little providers scattered around the US. Driving from Boston to Detroit something like 12-14 hours, I roamed in 3 different small GSM networks. Whereas from Boston to New Orleans, some 26 hour drive mainly in Central Time regions, the only networks were Cingular, ATT and VStream. Arcansas had quite crappy or no coverage, parts of Teneessee, Georgia and W Virginia were pretty much OK. In Texas I wasn't allowed to roam on the ATT network, dont know why...


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Posted: 2002-08-27 07:18:00
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I'm sorry, according to the Sprint website, they have far more better coverage than Cingular, AT&T and Voicestream/T-Mobile.

Sprint PCS Coverage


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****From Sprint website****
Sprint has the largest digital voice and data footprint in the U.S. Starting in late 2001, Sprint will begin to deploy the first phase of 3G (1x).


By mid 2002, Sprint will offer 3G services across its entire network, including more U.S. cities than any other wireless carrier.



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Posted: 2002-08-27 11:41:00
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GSM is the absolute biggest standard.
Approx. 75% of all mobile phones sold (worldwide) are GSM.

GSM is a short for "Groupe Special de Mobil" (french), a special interest group that formed the GSM standard.

The world's first commercial mobile system network was built in Saudi Arabia by Ericsson in 1981. It was an anlogue system called NMT-450.


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Posted: 2002-08-27 11:56:00
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That does not negate the fact that CDMA coverage is far better than GSM in the USA

It's true GSM coverage is larger worldwide, but CDMA coverage is also growing. Lets not forget that almost all of South and Central America almost has no GSM coverage.

http://www.cdg.org/world/cdma_world.asp


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Posted: 2002-08-27 12:27:00
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