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I'll show you - 2 pictures, same motive, same lightconditions, angle slightly different but still gives an idea. First picture with R1A was ok, since then I have not been able to take a similar picture of the same motive and ive tried many times, they all get overexposed with bluestick, poor color, and poor focus compared to the first. The second picture is the best I could get with R1J
1: R1A
2: R1J
these are cut down by esato, but you can still see the difference, I can post the original sizes if you need to look closer. I will try tomorrow to get another shot and try to find the exact same angle.
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Posted: 2005-06-30 20:31:20
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Oh i believe you numb, im not trying to say your phone does not have a problem. I can see the difference between the pictures you provided.
My point is, i have not noticed such a difference with
my phone. Pictures are still just as sharp as they were with the old firmware, just as colourful, and overall very much identical to pictures i took with old firmware.
Maybe its a region issue. Im from the UK, and my firmware is R1J002
EU1.
May i ask which region is yours ? EU1 ?
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Posted: 2005-07-01 00:39:23
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On 2005-07-01 00:39:23, etaab wrote:
Oh i believe you numb, im not trying to say your phone does not have a problem. I can see the difference between the pictures you provided.
My point is, i have not noticed such a difference with
my phone. Pictures are still just as sharp as they were with the old firmware, just as colourful, and overall very much identical to pictures i took with old firmware.
Maybe its a region issue. Im from the UK, and my firmware is R1J002
EU1.
May i ask which region is yours ? EU1 ?
same with my phone only video is poorer,pictures is sharper!!
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Posted: 2005-07-01 00:51:55
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Plz stop saying my camera has no problem every k750i users whoo have upgraded to Rj has lost quality SE admits that photo and video quality is been lowered with RJ
FROM mobile-review
ok just went to SE service center
hmm
got a very diplomatic answer 'the phone is more stable with this firmware setup ,inorder to provide stablity performance of photo and video recording has been decresed
I am now 100% sure that the quality of photos taken with k750 have changed after upgrade . SE service center admits this too
There is no point in saying my photos hasnt changed after upgrade.by looking at the picture you cant find the difference .
check the file size, check image info or take a print of both photos(RA and Rj)
in a photo paper with size 12 * 10 .or post the 2 photos here
Here is it the photos taken with no change in settings
same location ,same time ,same object
Photo with R1A
Photo with R1J
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Posted: 2005-07-01 07:16:22
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Is it sad to have the 2M pixel camera tune down on photo quality with the new firmware. I bought the K750 partly due to the high quality photo feature. If Sony Ericsson do not improve on the photo quality on the future firmware, I would probably trade in the phone for other brands..
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Posted: 2005-07-01 07:34:57
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Nice cat!
As as test, I have shown those photos to 5 different people at my work, not telling them which the "higher quality" one is.
2 guessed the first, 3 guessed the second. Try it, see what results you get.
I'm not doubting you can see a difference, but what particular area of the image makes it obvious to you one's better than the other?
I myself can't tell any real difference, apart from prehaps in the second one where the wall is much darker there is a little more jpeg compression, though I also think this could be caused by the light conditions itself.
I think to most joe-average people (SE's target market really, not us techos) the images look the same. I would say they have slightly increased the jpeg compression in the hope of letting users save 10% more pictures, most of their users aren't going to notice, or they have just farked up (see below)
Another poster said that normal/fine doesn't make a difference. On all other SE products I know, fine just means "less jpeg compression" so prehaps in the new firmware they've just forgotten to check the flag when taking images and movies (yes, the movie quality is obviously worse)
SE have made some similar stupid blunders with new firmware before!
Cheers,
Muppet
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Posted: 2005-07-01 10:13:03
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close up shots like the cat are bad examples of the photoquality degrade, as there are no big difference in close ups. I still get good pictures with close objects.
The problem is mainly in scenery/landscape shots outside in daylight.
I more or less constantly get overexposure, wrong colors (blue tint) and poor focus compared to the old firmware.
Its anoying me more and more each day, because I can nolonger count on it to take the pictures I expect it to, like it did before.
Yesterday I took about 15 shots of some white swans in a lake, sunny day, perfect conditions, and all of them are so overexposed that the swans just look like some big white spots in the picture. They are all pretty much useless. Some where shot using automatic settings, some were shot using daylight setting, but it didnt make any difference.
Example:
Took 3 shots of my kid, colors are completely off, blue tint has ruined colors, overexposure totally burns out the white shirt to a point where you cant make out it actually has lases. Also bad focus. On all of them. Didnt have time to play with different settings or exposuresompensation, but my point is I didnt have to on the old firmware where similar shots taken the same place, same conditions, came out nice. I dint have these overexposure problems or color problems in sunny daylight on the old firmware.
Example:
Colors edited in imageeditor to simulate how they should have been, but theres no way to fix the overexposure when details are burned out.
[ This Message was edited by: numb on 2005-07-01 10:24 ]
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Posted: 2005-07-01 11:07:51
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Its obviously done to save space - its a shame they didnt add an option to save with the old quality.
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Posted: 2005-07-01 11:36:40
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I can see numb's point with the pictures he has provided.
However my K750i does not do this.
Since mine does not, and many other people have not noticed much difference surely this must mean theres a problem with some firmware versions.
I dont see why SE would lower the photo quality on some handsets, and others they do not.
I reckon they'll either fix it in the next firmware version, or (again in the next firmware version) lower the quality of everyones K750i to match - because right now my photos look fine.
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Posted: 2005-07-01 11:44:50
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I agree etaab, I can see in the shots you post in the K750 picturethreads that yours look like they should, and like mine did before. And many others also post pictures from the new firmware that looks as they should.
Its definately not all that have this problem, but I cant tell if its specific to certain firmwareregions or where the cat is burried.
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Posted: 2005-07-01 12:07:02
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