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Thats not going to happen because is impossible ! The K750i does'nt have the hardware (ie micro chips) A smart phone is like a pc.Pretty dumb till you install the applications you want to use.My old 7650 is almost 3years old but it does more things than a brand new and working k750i ex try ftp uploading/downloading from your k750i ;-) . Greetings from South Africa.
Mario
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Posted: 2005-07-16 14:24:30
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Smartphones allowed you to use mobile java softwares to extend their functionalities. Some smartphones are more or less like a computer in your pocket.
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Posted: 2005-07-16 14:46:38
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On 2005-07-16 14:24:30, mario2002 wrote:
Thats not going to happen because is impossible ! The K750i does'nt have the hardware (ie micro chips)
That is a very very very incorrect answer. Its a common misconception that because a device isnt something the manufacturer intended it to be, it can never be it.
The fact is, the K750i has everything it needs to be a smartphone, minus the open ended OS. If someone were to write say, a cracked version of windows mobile or their own smartphone OS and interface, it could be possible to install it on the K750i by overwriting the phones firmware. Whether it would work or not would be down to how well it was written for the K750i.
Its doubt it'll ever happen, but to claim its impossible is just plain ignorance. I think it was only last year some pc geek managed to install a diluted version of Linux onto his Palm PDA.
However the point is, if you need a smartphone, buy a P910i, its probably the best smartphone money can buy minus the VGA camera - better than any Nokia smartphone too IMO.
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Posted: 2005-07-17 01:13:59
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Firstly I do program C/C++ for almost 20 years now.I wrote a number of subroutines for my old 7650 to make my life easy.Now the operating system of a normal cellphone is almost impossible to read/understand and because of copyright issues the cell companies does't want the public to 'hack it'.Some routines for the K750i may well be written in C++ but the overall linking knows only god,satan and a few SE ingeniers.Also the hard wireing must be obviously done the 'right way' to support what the software expect to find.A palmtop is already a 'smart' device,hence it can be reprogrammed to use any other operating system ! A K750i does'nt have a operating system as such.Only a few routines executed according to the keys depressed.It may sound the same as a operating system driven device,but trust me is a huge difference buddy.
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Posted: 2005-07-17 12:33:50
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@mario
then how can you explain the linux os that was modified to work on the ipod? i suppose mac engineers follow similar routines to se when they program devices
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Posted: 2005-07-17 12:41:27
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I love UNIX and any of its 'children' I don't quite understand what you mean. Linux is relativ easy to modify if you know to what it must be modified into. My old 7650 has a 16MB EEPROM memory wired up in such a way that it can execute the necessary routines in the right order and interact with other system components whatever they may be.I think the Ipod has a hard drive which can store any operating system meaningfully changed to access its hardware parts.You don't seem to know how a computer is working.You can have a 'hard wired' computer too a la k750i which will still compute a handfull of things but it won't be as flexible as a OS controled one,albeit it will be faster.
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Posted: 2005-07-17 13:38:37
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The simple point is Mario, is that it is possible to install a smartphone OS onto even basic devices, albeit stripped down versions.
When i talk in relation of the K750i, you'd need to completely format the phones memory using such an OS, not try to install one onto the existing phone and its firmware.
All phones have an OS, no matter how basic or complex they are.
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Posted: 2005-07-18 00:14:05
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@etaab It's hard to call OS the fw of the phone, more informative is to call fw the sequence of commands that are called using infinite inquiry of hardware.
@mario You have forgotten R380, the first smartphone ever built. I can't put no addicional apps there(except of sending primitive wap-java games/book, but that's a hack). But that is still the smartphone. Its OS is \\\ modified EPOC Symbian32. There is the SDK for R380 somewhere inside of Ericsson/SE company, but they didn't thought to release it to the developers.
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Posted: 2005-07-18 02:22:29
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It's not all that hard. Its just an embedded OS. It's burnt to the phones rom and controls the functions of the phone.
You can't attribute it to simply being a function linker to the buttons because things like call lists actually require the phone to log information, managment of file transfers etc, they're not just simply clicking "C" and having the phone do the corresponding task assigned only to that button.
Just because it's one you can't overwrite doesn't mean it's not an OS. It probably has some wierd in house name like Edwina, or maybe its just plain old SEOS.
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Posted: 2005-07-18 02:33:14
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@Gigs embedded OS have always leaks:), some users can use, fw has only bugs. Remember Windows NT Embedded, first embedded os produced? It has many leaks as the original NT
. Maybe you are right: that is not a sequence, that is a couple of prcedures/functions called within an infinite program sequence. Although fw isn't a real OS(even an embedded one).
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Posted: 2005-07-18 02:44:12
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