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davisa Posts: 63

@Lucas - I will see what I can find. I also noticed today that on the Contacts screen the highlight bar must have white text on white which is a little bit of a problem!
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Posted: 2006-07-14 20:43:22
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funfobia Posts: 9

Thank you for your theme, Lucas
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Posted: 2006-07-15 02:25:35
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Anemovatis Posts: 3

I am really trying to build a theme for M60o but the damn Theme Creator is so unhelpful. You cannot actually preview a very big list of things. I will like to pinpoint the most annoying of them here for "them" to see.

Activity Tab
-Misplaced Time, Date and Shortcut icons. Their actualy position on the phone is a few pixels down.
- You cannot see the selection block of the Shortcut icons
- Wrong colors on text and time

AppList Menu Tab
-Cascade Background, Classic Background are completly irrelevant with the actual graphics displayed on the phone. It seems that only "One Handed Background" actually works.

Calendar
-Irrelevant graphics used on the title area.

That any many more are so obvious bugs that I am really wondering who is actually building this software. It just takes 10-15 mins working with it to see the problems.

Hoping for an updated soon...

edit : I wonder if the actual tool for themes is the SDK emulator and Theme Creator is a joke. If anyone knows how to use the emulator of the SDK to preview themes it will be awesome to know.


[ This Message was edited by: Anemovatis on 2006-07-15 19:38 ]

[ This Message was edited by: Anemovatis on 2006-07-15 19:38 ]
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Posted: 2006-07-15 20:31:39
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simpsons Posts: 273

Noticed that someone is Selling M600 Themes over at Symbian web site... Hope you don't get too many ideas Lucas, as the work you have been putting in for us all is very appreciated, especially at the price you charge !

[ This Message was edited by: simpsons on 2006-07-15 19:52 ]
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Posted: 2006-07-15 20:51:33
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Lucas Posts: > 500

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On 2006-07-15 20:51:33, simpsons wrote:
Noticed that someone is Selling M600 Themes over at Symbian web site... Hope you don't get too many ideas Lucas, as the work you have been putting in for us all is very appreciated, especially at the price you charge !

[ This Message was edited by: simpsons on 2006-07-15 19:52 ]



Thanks for that info mate. The thing is that looking at that theme, I realized that the guy is using my images for his Vista Theme and then selling it...

That is not ok! Mobile9 Disclaimer clearly states the following:

"Disclaimer: This download is for personal use only. Kindly do not copy, modify, distribute or sell the whole or parts of this file without permission of the creator."

Being the guy that I am, I do not accept that someone is earning money on my work.

So, I sent the following notice to Handango, who distributes the themes, through, amoung others, My-Symbian.

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Hi,



I have noticed that S-PM Design, one of Handango’s partners/content providers, is selling themes for Sony Ericsson M600 on Handango website and your partner portals that are not rightfully his. I do own copyright on the themes and the material within the themes that I have produced and will not accept that another company is selling what I have created.



I can prove to you that I have published the themes on booth Esato.com (http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=123477) and Mobile9.com (http://www.mobile9.com/invboard/index.php?showtopic=24146) prior to S-PM Designs launch of the theme pack on your web site The copyright laws governing the US clearly states that the person who first publishes his work does own the copyright of the material published. Furthermore I can prove that the files are created within my computer, since I have the original psd file I used in Photo Shop to create the different layers and effects.



The reason I write to you is not because of the idea that I want to gain money on my creation (they have been published as free downloads), but rather that someone uses parts of what I have done to make money himself. This frustrates me.



So what I would like you to do is the following. Do not payout any revenue gained from the themes sold in this product to S-PM Design and prohibit him from keep selling the product.



http://www.handango.com/Platf[....]m600&productId=192471&R=192471



Instead I would like you to send that money (I know it is not much, but nevertheless) to the Children’s Cancer Fund as a Donation in the name of Handango and Lucas Johannes. This, I hope, will ensure you that I am not writing to you with a personal greed in mind.



My recommendation to you is to consider if this is the kind of company you would like to do business with. I will personally go through al the themes S-PM Design is selling to see if there is any more that I have created and I will also mention this to the people I know who creates themes, so they could find out if he is infringing on their copyright.



If you do not do as I have say, I will take legal action against S-PM Design, Handango and any other site were I can find my creations being sold. I would like written notice of your actions against S-PM Design within a reasonable time frame.



It is important that you know, that I do not hold a grudge against Handango or its partners and would nothing less than to solve this as simple as possible. I hope that you can understand and sympathise with my frustration.



Best regards

Luc

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I will keep you posted on the process. In the meanwhile I will not publish any more themes and you can thank S-PM Design for this.

Cheers
Luc

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Posted: 2006-07-17 17:43:48
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spmdesign Posts: 2

hello Lucas, i`m a reader here on esato from a long time. Now i`ve registered to end this conflict. You are right , i used ONLY the background and status bar from your themes ( not all theme, but is not an excuse) , downloaded from rapidshare some time ago, now i see that are on mobile 9. I removed the product from Handango and i`ll modify the themes before uploading again. I`m sorry for any problems. I hope we can solve this without Handango and you can inform them about that. I removed the M600 themes and i already replaced the status bar and background with something made by me.
Sorry again.

[ This Message was edited by: spmdesign on 2006-07-17 18:04 ]
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Posted: 2006-07-17 18:38:11
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Lucas Posts: > 500

Quote:
On 2006-07-17 18:38:11, spmdesign wrote:
hello Lucas, i`m a reader here on esato from a long time. Now i`ve registered to end this conflict. You are right , i used ONLY the background and status bar from your themes ( not all theme, but is not an excuse) , downloaded from rapidshare some time ago, now i see that are on mobile 9. I removed the product from Handango and i`ll modify the themes before uploading again. I`m sorry for any problems. I hope we can solve this without Handango and you can inform them about that. I removed the M600 themes and i already replaced the status bar and background with something made by me.
Sorry again.

[ This Message was edited by: spmdesign on 2006-07-17 18:04 ]


Hey man,

I will talk to Handango, dude. But what you did is not okay.

A bit of advice to you, is to read copyright laws (www.copyright.gov). Since they also state that you may not sell images that you have not created yourself (or is beyond recognition of its original stature). Hence, you are not allowed to use Microsoft ore any other images that you have not created yourself for that matter. You are not allowed to distribute Sony Ericsson Copyright themes in a product you sell (even if it is only as a service). If Microsoft gets a hold of you, what I have done is nothing compared to what they will do to prove a point. That’s why my themes are free and not for sale, since I do not own the rights of the images, but I do own the right of the creation or parts of a theme that I have created, (ie layers, image cuts or an “idea” for a theme).

Copyright is by law given to the person who publishes the idea, image, compilation of images or in our case a theme, first. So, on our case me.

I am not the person to hold a grudge and do accept apologies, so I have written the following to Handango:

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Hi,
S-PM Design has contacted me after I published my email to you on Esato.com and Mobile9.com (within the threads I mentioned in my email). He has shown me sufficient regret for his mistake and I will therefore withdraw my complaint. I hope that Handango or S-PM Design will donate the money earned on these themes to the fund I mentioned in my complaint. I will however leave that up to you, since I am now convinced that S-PM Design will not repeat their mistake and will in the future ensure that the company does have Copyright on the contents they sell through Handango or any other channels.

I do regret spending $10 on themes to verify that S-PM Design did copy my work.

Best regards
Luc

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I hope that this will end our dispute.

/Luc


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Posted: 2006-07-17 21:00:15
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spmdesign Posts: 2

thank you for understanding. i`ll contact handango to see what can we do with the money, i have no problem donating that amount for a good cause. thank you for explaining me the rules of copyright... now all my themes will be redesigned with my own creation. Thanks again.
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Posted: 2006-07-17 23:01:02
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urbanomad Posts: 3

I use the default theme and have deleted the other three that came on my m600 as they are all disgusting.
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Posted: 2006-07-18 13:06:35
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Lucas Posts: > 500

I just posted this second generation Windows Vista theme on M9, complete with the new Vista sounds. Let me know what you think.


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Posted: 2006-07-18 21:32:01
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