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On 2007-04-07 04:34:33, mario2004 wrote:
After reading a handfull of post by DragonEye, I come to the conclusion - if posting is longer then 3 lines - ignore -. He likes to complain (not much wrong with that) but he is biased (very much wrong with that) ! He 'bends' the truth to suit his views/wishes and I couldn't be bothered reading stuff like that
Sorry Dragon, but this is the impression you've created - I hope this won't trigger you into a 'killing frenzy'. Be a bit more unbiased/fair and I will read your posts again.
lol cause i choose to push my devices to their limits...you think i'm making stuff up... just like how i don't have a n95 either... dude i don't lie have no need to...i'm just talking about the bugs i've found.. haven't said hte n95 sucks haven't said not to get it... so i don't know what your problem is please just don't respond to my posts anymore
On 2007-04-07 05:09:42, mib1800 wrote:
@dragoneye
browse, music and messaging that's what i expect it's not too much
Are you sure you have problem using these 3 together. I certainly have no problem at all. Only problem I have is when I use Gallery+Web together. So I am sorry that your N95 is screwed.
music player in the background, browsing via wifi and responding to sms messages.. i MAY but not ALWAYS...get the 1 following:
1)music hiccups, stutters, skips
2)music app closes automatically
3)webbrowser says memory full
4)webbrowser just closes automatically
again it's not unbearable just things i've noticed..
gps works perfectly fine in both units i've played with
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[ This Message was edited by: DragonEye on 2007-04-07 11:06 ]
[ This Message was edited by: DragonEye on 2007-04-07 11:06 ]
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Posted: 2007-04-07 11:59:32
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DragonEye:
All your so-called problems are just limitation of the S60 platform and Ram. All the apps share the same processor and at 300+mhz it may not be able to service the apps if u load up huge web page (esp one with lots of images, scripts and many redirections).
What is your RAM after boot up? If you have
Can I suggest that you use Opera Mini for casual browsing. Then you will not encounter this. Otherwise maybe get a phone like K800+carry your laptop around.
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Posted: 2007-04-07 13:02:00
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@Mib 1800,
I can not agree about using Opera Mini as opposed to the built in Web bowser the experience is just not anywhere near the same. I have already conceded and agreed with Dragon Eye that although i have never had a crash or a freeze he could do this with my N93 with no great difficulty.
We need to accept the fact that Symbian 9.1 has taken as step back as far as it's Ram consumption and that whilst smart phones any smart phone ships with only 64mb Ram Multitasking without limit can not exist.
The advantages of Symbian 9.1 are it's speed and stability and performance and on those fronts i am more than satisfied. In my experience by using Handy Taskman i am able to have a smooth running machine that when i shut apps i recover nearly all my Ram. Only the E90 when it arrives will remedy this as it will have 128mb Ram and 80mb Ram free on boot up. Until then if you use a Task Manager and apply some maintenance on your system you really should not suffer from freezes or crashes IMO.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-04-07 17:14 ]
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Posted: 2007-04-07 15:39:50
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On 2007-04-07 15:39:50, Dogmann wrote:
@Mib 1800,
I can not agree about using Opera Mini as opposed to the built in Web bowser the experience is just not anywhere near the same. I have already conceded and agreed with Dragon Eye that although i have never had a crash or a freeze he could do this with my N93 with no great difficulty.
We need to accept the fact that Symbian 9.1 has taken as step back as far as it's Ram consumption and that whilst smart phones any smart phone ships with only 64mb Ram Multitasking without limit can not exist.
The advantages of Symbian 9.1 are it's speed and stability and performance and on those fronts i am more than satisfied. In my experience by using Handy Taskman i am able to have a smooth running machine that when i shut apps i recover nearly all my Ram. Only the E90 when it arrives will remedy this as it will have 128mb Ram and 80mb Ram free on boot up. Until then if you use a Task Manager and apply some maintenance on your system you really should not suffer from freezes or crashes IMO.
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-04-07 17:14 ]
agreed... people, if we only discussed how perfect the n95 is then what would be the point?
probably 85% of the people that use the n95 will never have the issues i have because they don't even install any apps... out of the box the device is powerful enough for most... i just want to test nokia's "what computers have become slogan"
lol the s60 browser is light years ahead of opera mini... if i had to use opera mini on my s60 device.. i would use my k790 and laptop
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http://www.howardforums.com/m[....]s=&action=getinfo&userid=20841[ This Message was edited by: DragonEye on 2007-04-07 19:44 ]
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Posted: 2007-04-07 20:43:08
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@ Dragon Eye
Defiantly on the Nokia Browser i cannot understand why anyone would use Opera Mini unless they are paying for every bit of Data usage.
I also understand what you are saying about products living up to there claims. But if you consider my first ultraportable computer Toshiba Libretto 70ct, my current smart phone has faster processor 330mhz and if i remember correctly it was 100mhz. The amount of RAM 64MB i think the Toshiba may have of had 32mb after i added 16mb which cost £150 odd. my Smart phone is so many times faster and stable it is what the Toshiba has become. Smart phones really are Mini computers they are much more powerful and even have fully fledged2D/3D graphics chips far more advanced than computers of old. Portable computing is really start to take off and IMO. Online storage and syncing is already growing and Thin client solutions are also now becoming available and taht is the future os smart phones IMO.
To some a mobile phone i just that and entertainment to others it is mobility and access to everything they need when they need it. You can virtually do anything you want or need whilst mobile without a laptop. As tech continues to evolve processors storage and Ram in smart phones have more power than is even needed. HSDPA is set to start hitting over 3mbps shortly. I remember 9,600kbps and then 14,400kbps. Data growth has always been projected to have huge market share, That IMO can only start now as the devices become able to deliver acceptable quality and speed.
I do think the E90 might just stump your quest although i am quite sure like any device it won't be perfect but pretty darn close.
Marc
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Posted: 2007-04-07 21:11:56
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strangely, the E90 doesn't interest me. I had the very first communicator, the 9000, then the 9110, the 9210 and the 9210i
since then I have much prefered WM devices, moreso lately with slide out keyboard
I don't know what it is about the 9300, 9500 and now this E90 but they just don't appeal despite how much I really enjoyed their predecessors
so for my return to Nokia (while waiting for a good WM6 device), I think I have made a good choice in the N95 and I am liking it more and more as I use it and find out more about it
so I'll be interested to how the E90 is accepted when its available
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Posted: 2007-04-07 21:22:28
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@ Masseur,
But just imagine everything you have now with an 800x600 screen and decent size qwerty Keyboard, not forgetting of course the killer feature 80mb Free Ram.
Marc
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Posted: 2007-04-07 22:06:23
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we'll see... one Nokia at a time
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Posted: 2007-04-07 22:14:03
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@Masseur,
Can't argue with that but i do remember warning you they are addictive LOL.
Marc
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Posted: 2007-04-07 23:55:31
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On 2007-04-07 22:06:23, Dogmann wrote:
@ Masseur,
But just imagine everything you have now with an 800x600 screen and decent size qwerty Keyboard, not forgetting of course the killer feature 80mb Free Ram.
Marc
Marc... i heard the e90 might be out by May... that would be impressive and if that's the case i can't wait to get my hands on it...
n95 is officially available at Nokia USA stores now to for $750 USD.... that should get the price down to a more realistic price so i can get one to actually use..
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