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My W800 īs had problems with the joystick twice and now the camera is turning on by itself draining my battery and annoying me. I remember the first time i pulled my w800 from its box and the battery cover and overall parts felt squeaky. There have not been one
model without some sort of problem in its built-in quality till today. Saying other brands also have problems is no excuse, I donīt believe any other brand has this on all its product line like
does.
have not impressed me since the k750/w800 days, this year only w960 seems really promising but its not out yet and im afraid it will come filled with software bugs like most
smartphones on launch and also have bad built-in quality. Nokia is the best brand of the world in the moment,
is too far behind. I believe apple now can hold a candle agaisnt nokia but not because it competes in terms of tech (nokia is too ahead) but because if offers something different it u fell like trying something new.
is not offering anything really new, its just releasing phones with techs that nokia īs already had for months.
is feeling outdated and its a shame.
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Posted: 2007-10-09 08:26:27
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Will we see a much interesting porfolio [especially high-end] if SE becomes World's third biggest selling mobile manufacturer?
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Posted: 2007-10-09 09:10:43
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Ooohhhh, good point, hhhmmmm.....
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Posted: 2007-10-09 09:23:28
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I think the 2008 pro portfolio may be better because SE change the CEO
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Posted: 2007-10-09 09:27:59
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Let's all pray that this is the case
Despite my constant b#t*@ing about SE I still have faith in them, I'm still here!
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Posted: 2007-10-09 09:51:57
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On 2007-10-09 08:02:16, QVGA wrote:
If you think the joystick problem wasnt serious then you're only kidding yourself. Lots of people other than you had this problem including myself.
Dont forget the broken keypad of S500, or am i just nit picking?
K700 looked better without that label? Is that an excuse?
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Yes some people had problems, but overall the W800 and K750 are very reliable handsets. Most manufacturers are plagued with these kinds of problems. One year this model has a crap joystick, next year another manufacturer has a phone firmware that crashes alot before they get it fixed. These kinds of reliability issues are embedded in the mobile phone industry, SE is no different from any, and all this bitching about SE and singling SE out as some sort of disgrace is just sour grapes. Regardless of what you say, I still think it's nitpicking.
btw, of course it's sloppy build that the quickshare label fell off K700, but that was an extremely minor and non-performance affecting problem of an otherwise perfect phone, a handset that was way ahead of any other phone available for the 1st six months after it's release. If you want to diss the K700 you are barking up the wrong tree. Who cares if the quickshare label fell off.
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Posted: 2007-10-09 10:10:22
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On 2007-10-09 08:02:16, QVGA wrote:
Dont forget the broken keypad of S500, or am i just nit picking?
held their hands upto that one. They admitted that it was an unforeseen manufacturing fault with the paint reacting with the plastic. It was only a small batch affected and was remedied quite quickly.
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Posted: 2007-10-09 10:27:15
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We want high end phones packed with features!!
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Posted: 2007-10-09 11:09:44
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On 2007-10-09 11:09:44, JK wrote:
We want high end phones packed with features!!
YES. This we do not have. You can say SE doesn't need anything new because the UI is innovative, you can say SE just trying to increase their marketshare, bla, bla, bla, but high end phones packed with new features is something SE doesn't have and we all know it. If they (or our forum mates) don't want to listen to this 'select few' who demand this, then do it for their own credibility and reputation. I realize that probably only 5% or less of the world population knows what the heck HSDPA is, but it wouldn't hurt them to have just 1 truly bangin' flagship model to silent the critics and prove undisputedly that they're still in the game. Currently even they loyal users aren't too convinced *me*cough*
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Posted: 2007-10-09 11:28:46
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BUt we are talking TWO features only. K850 has HSDPA, but not vga video (which is still a gimmick anyway) or GPS.
To claim that SE have let you down because they have everything anyone else has got except VGA video and GPS is just sour grapes.
The N95 is the only phone out there besides HTC devices that has everything. Motorola has GPS but lousy cameras. Samsung are releasing a GPS phone next year or late this year (previous models have been for exclusive asian markets).
Nokia DON'T have a touchscreen, so if you are gonna argue that SE should have GPS and VGA recording to classify as a phone with "Everything", then N95 should have a touchscreen (there is stronger market support for touchscreens than vga video and about the same support for gps as touchscreen imho.) The fact that Nokia are bringing out an s60 touchscreen next year indicates that it's a strong market segment. SE already have it covered but when people complain about SE they conveniently poo-poo touchscreen as irrelevent. But to those for whom touchscreens are important, Nokia has for years and years completely ignored our needs. Do you see us jumping up and down on Nokia forums claiming Nokia have a "SAD" portfolio?? BTW, N95 was released in 2006 was it not? Therefore Nokia have had no innovation in their portfolio for 2007, if you judge them on the same criteria you are judging SE.
Let's see:
P1 = 3MP AF camera, touchscreen, wifi-b and 3G (non-hsdpa).
N95 = 5MP AF but equivalent to a 3MP in terms of detail captured, no touchscreen, wifi-g (how many people really have so much stuff to copy from PC to mobile or have access to a wifi access point that makes wifi-g actually more useful than wifi-b?), HSDPA (an advantage but as stated before only about 5% of the world had hsdpa when N95 was released), GPS. VGA video, still crappy encoding, still a gimmick.
K850 = 5MP camera, considerably better at capturing detail than N95. Detail is more important imho than other camera factor since you can correct everything but lack of detail using photshop or similiar. So to me the K850 is a more professionally implemented still camera than N95. HSDPA. Dual M2 AND microSD + microSDHC support.
As far as I'm concerned the main differences are Nokia have GPS while SE don't, and SE have touchscreen while Nokia don't.
It's horses for courses. Neither company has let anyone down, they are just doing business the way they always have. The only difference is, SE have increased their choice of handsets considerably, something that in itself is a huge innovation for a company that traditionally ONLY appealed to the high end and had little to offer the average consumer.
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Posted: 2007-10-10 00:10:28
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