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i havent noticed too many bugs on mine tho have to admit the camera is not as good as the k800
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Posted: 2007-10-21 20:18:04
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I'm deeply disappointed in the CPU as it really runs slow at times and my set hang twice today.
SE oughta come out with a firmware soon or else many more angry users will raise.

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Posted: 2007-10-21 21:27:06
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i dont see why anyone would return their phone before the 2nd firmware release.
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Posted: 2007-10-21 21:36:30
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Probably because they are not satisfied with their purchase and can't wait for the firmware release?
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Posted: 2007-10-21 23:02:45
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SE must be aware of all the problems with this phone, they will be losing millions of £'s in returned phones and loss of reputation if they dont act now, me personally am seriously sick to death of not hearing any sort of explanation to why they have designed and made such a poor phone. Dont get me wrong, I love the phone to bits but feel cheated that it isnt performing in the way it should.
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Posted: 2007-10-21 23:51:27
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I have to say that I thought the K850 and W910 used an all new platform, which was much faster and allowed better imaging, HSDPA etc etc. In fact, it's slower than earlier models because it's the same kit trying to do a lot more. It's the new Java platform that is the big change, which also sees the switch to the three soft-keys instead of two.

It's made me wonder why they took so long to release this phone if it was merely to add a new media player 'front-end' and the accelerometer. Was this the problem, as the W580i was quite late coming too?

What were SE thinking by not increasing the processor speed at the same time? As mentioned above, the phone is having to do so much more in the background. Use the new media player and it's a crawl; but use the original file manager (still there but hidden away) and it's actually quite usable.

My problem with the file structure is getting worse. It's crashing more now, and if I try and do something like update the data settings (it wasn't set for MMS) then it crashes (reboots) every time it makes a connection.

Problem is a full reset DOESN'T reset the file structure so it needs a re-flash. SEUS says I've got the latest firmware, but won't let me reinstall it anyway. So, I'm basically stuck.

Also, I used the - frankly awful - Sony music manager software (how slow can that be?) and copied over some music to see if album art would work. All music copied, but it doesn't show on the phone. Now I've looked on the PC (in mass media mode) and the files aren't there either. What the hell? Do SE expect you to use this software instead of Windows Media Player? That syncs everything perfectly, bar album art.

Finally, while I'm moaning about bugs, I want to whinge about the removal of the play/pause button on the phone. SE is going too far in its mission to differentiate between Cyber-shot and Walkman. By taking away the play button, it's hard to both start playing music and - more importantly - stop playing music. This is going to really annoy people, especially those upgrading.

And, why have they gone back to playing the music through the internal speaker straight away after removing the headphones? I've knocked the lead out before, and SE stopped this from being an issue by asking "Continue playback through speaker?" to save you from blasting out music to everyone around you. Now it does exactly that, again.
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[ This Message was edited by: jmcomms on 2007-10-21 23:37 ]
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Posted: 2007-10-22 00:28:44
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Give them a little more time to develop an update, there are way too many bugs to be death with.
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Posted: 2007-10-22 00:34:42
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They had most of the year to fix these bugs! Seriously, we all knew about the K850 and the new platform a long time before it was announced. It was always intended to be, for marketing reasons, released late in the year because of the large roadmap of new handsets.

So, while the marketeers wanted to have a defined release schedule, you would have thought the programmers would have had PLENTY of time to get things right instead of this ridiculous situation where loads of people are buying the phone and now getting REALLY annoyed. There's no WAY ON EARTH that SE weren't aware of most, if not almost all, of these bugs before the phone was signed off and into production.

As you can see on here, and our own forum for UK users, long-term SE fans are returning this phone. They're not going to be patient and wait for an update, as there's now a lot of good kit from the competition. SE is going to lose its reputation with things like this. As I've said in my review, didn't they learn anything from the P990?

Sure, with a major update, the phone could be pretty amazing. I sure hope it will be. People who buy the phone by Christmas should get a pretty good phone, but how many others will be buying an LG Viewty, N95 8GB (which, to be honest, IS going to be a pretty serious competitor to this) or something else entirely because their first impressions of the K850 are so bad?

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[ This Message was edited by: jmcomms on 2007-10-21 23:45 ]
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Posted: 2007-10-22 00:44:37
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As Jonathan Morris said, sony is going to lose lot of customers, because the first impression is going to make sense, people deosnt care about updates, see the k750i, w800i, k790i, k800i and especially the W810i, has got the excellent review on its first firmware release, even though they had some bugs. this make the sales to shoot up. So far more poeple have showed their discomfort after buying the K850i. I dont know what sony will do now. I think people eyes will go on the LG viewty, which can really challenge the N95 8GB.

Sony may be interesting in desigining some other 5 megapixel camera phone. just like the k810i as the successor of k800i.
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Posted: 2007-10-22 06:22:27
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Had my k850i since last Thursday, bought it SIM free from an independent retailer. As of yesterday I've had the dreaded "operation failed" when trying to access Applications or Games, same as happened on my k800i and to countless other people on their SE handsets. Done a few reboots and a master reset to no avail so reflashing is the only way forwards... except there's no wotan k850i support and no firmware upgrade available yet. Oh well.

Other than that, for my own needs (most importantly no audio player requirements) it's a superb upgrade to the k800i and I'm really happy with it. Haven't had any of the camera bugs and the alarm works perfectly. The keys took around 2 days to get used to and now I'm as fast as I was on any previous handset.

Firmware as per 'software version' menu item is R1CA029 (1200-4404 R1CA029 070922).
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Posted: 2007-10-22 10:47:56
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