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but PLEASE.........even a Ģ300-400 digi cam have noice in full size...so its completley normal that k850 have so.....(its not many ordinary digi cams who manage good pictures in full size).
if you want noice-free full size pictures...buy a H3D-II, (or something like that)
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-10-30 12:32 ]
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Posted: 2007-10-30 13:26:36
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On 2007-10-30 13:26:36, plankgatan wrote:
but PLEASE.........even a Ģ300-400 digi cam have noice in full size...so its completley normal that k850 have so.....(its not many ordinary digi cams who manage good pictures in full size).
No, a digicam in that price range will usually not have noise in daylight shots. Low-light or indoor shots maybe. If my digicam produced
that much noise I would trash it immediately.
Have a peak at
this thread where we compare a better camera phone with real cameras, with full size comparison photos.
On 2007-10-30 10:41:50, plankgatan wrote:
or i just use my cell phone...(think the most pictures I/we get with k850 is good enough for 10 x 15cm photos (and even larger).
Daytime or well-lit flash photos will probably print with good results up to A4 maybe even slightly bigger than A4.
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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2007-10-30 13:52 ]
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Posted: 2007-10-30 14:14:29
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foy me the k850 is best
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Posted: 2007-10-30 14:26:18
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On 2007-10-30 13:26:36, plankgatan wrote:
but PLEASE.........even a Ģ300-400 digi cam have noice in full size...so its completley normal that k850 have so.....(its not many ordinary digi cams who manage good pictures in full size).
Er... I think not. The K850 is pretty poor, here are two 100% crops. One is from a K850 (ISO 100) and one from an old Sony 5Mp pocket digicam (P100):
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Posted: 2007-10-30 17:05:04
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jst got my k850i today,
i have to say in low lit areas the pics i have taken so far are really poor.
its as if the flash does nothing at all.
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Posted: 2007-10-30 17:12:25
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Look at the difference in noise in the red channel (between the K850 and P100):
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Posted: 2007-10-30 17:22:37
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@apotts,
Something like this? (800x600 crop at full scale.)
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Posted: 2007-10-30 17:22:50
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Funny thread this one
First of all. No one could for sure think a tiny small phone-cam could outperform a real digicam. And YES there are noice in many full sized "real" digicam shots to if zoomed in to 100%.
I read quite much before buying my K850i and i quickly saw that the N95 does a better job with the pictures in the phone and if you dont touch the pictures after moving them over to the pc the N95 ones would for sure look much better for the eyes.
On the other hand the N95:s pictures are very strong adjusted already in the phone and many pictures look a bit oversaturated and not very realistic.
The K850 pictures need a run in a tiny photo program ( i use AcdSee ) and a quick "autolevel" click and then they come to life. They look very "weak" and "pale" if shooting auto mode. For me this is natural because i always reisze my pictures so they will be kind for the web or small enough to mail away. I adjust some levels on my "real" camerapictures also so this is rutine for me.
I could also add the N95:s strong adjustments afterwards if i would like to and then get quite the same result.
This is also seen in the "real" digicam world. Some manufacturers tune their pictures extremely hard in the cam and details gets lost but the picture comes out with very low noice. Other ones let all the noice and artifacts stay in the picture and details will be preserved along with more noice. Itīs a matter of taste i guess.
I think itīs very possible to take funny and enjoyable pictures with them both. Im very happy for my K850i. It does the job much better than my previous K800 and K810i:s but i think it gets beaten by the N95 if i wouldnīt touch the pictures after they come out from the phone. The N95s pictures are much more enjoyable for the eye before giving the K850s a boost
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Posted: 2007-10-30 17:43:41
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OK,
Which has the better picture quality?
This 1.3Mp photo scaled up to 5Mp?
Or the 5Mp K850 photo?
May I suggest that they are about the same, meaning that the quality of the K850 5 Mp camera is about the same as a 1.3 Mp pocket digicam.
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Posted: 2007-10-30 19:03:59
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On 2007-10-30 17:12:25, Loso wrote:
jst got my k850i today,
i have to say in low lit areas the pics i have taken so far are really poor.
its as if the flash does nothing at all.
That issue has been mentioned at least 30 times on this forum. It's a flash bug. The flash fires just before the photo is taken. A future firmware update will surely resolve this.
[ This Message was edited by: NightBlade on 2007-10-30 18:49 ]
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Posted: 2007-10-30 19:48:21
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