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There are two ways...awful or natural colors...they’ re natural for me in this shot (as the sky’s color)...the world is beautiful because it’s varied...
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Posted: 2008-01-24 00:33:22
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Watch this page :
http://www.planete-nokia.com/[....]ndex.php?showtopic=50267&st=75
And here is the translation of the author's of recent photos comparative say (translated with google) :
I think the N82 produced some very good shots in fully automatic mode. The settings are virtually ineffective and make very little difference.
For the K850i just the opposite: in any auto photos are very medium, but as soon as you touch a little bit the settings, it makes miracles.
It would be very difficult to choose one of its mobile (for photo-quality).
Let's say that the N82 will be very effective in photos taken on the spot where one does not necessarily have the time to make adjustments.
Conversely, if we have a little bit of time before either the K850i is really very pleasant to use and photographic qualities of the user will be called upon (it is very pleasing to note that the adjustments made during the shooting have a real impact on the quality of picture).
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Posted: 2008-01-24 00:40:07
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Do you prefer like this? Two click on color’s balance in photodj in the phone...in 20 second...nice but not real...
By
pperfectt, shot with
K850i at 2008-01-23
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Posted: 2008-01-24 01:56:38
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On 2008-01-23 23:10:49, rickster2kuk wrote:
I think on par the n82 and k850i's camera's are the same. You get better colour and less noise on the Nokia but get better detail on the K850i.
Unfortunately (or fortunately
) in the gsmarena review, it came to a conclusion that N82/N95 has marginally better detail than K850 (i.e 7 vs 6 points). But K850 lose quite a lot in the post-processing algorithm (i.e. 8 vs 5 in favor of N82/95). And this is what reviewer has to say about the K850 post-processing.
Sony Ericsson K850 also uses noise suppression routine, but it is less intelligent than the one of N95 and in certain places it simply eradicates the really fine details. You can see how much details are sometimes lost. The noise suppression algorithm also sometimes has a problem with the edge detection thus removing significant amount of detail in low contrast areas of the image.
So it is a fallacy that N82/95 that do over-processing and suppress details. In fact, K850 is the culprit that do over-processing to the points that details are lost. Most probably to try to hide the photo noise due to cheap sensor and lens but to no avail as photo noise is still abundant in K850 photos.
[ This Message was edited by: mib1800 on 2008-01-24 01:45 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-24 02:44:56
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On 2008-01-24 02:44:56, mib1800 wrote:
On 2008-01-23 23:10:49, rickster2kuk wrote:
I think on par the n82 and k850i's camera's are the same. You get better colour and less noise on the Nokia but get better detail on the K850i.
Unfortunately (or fortunately
) in the gsmarena review, it came to a conclusion that N82/N95 has marginally better detail than K850 (i.e 7 vs 6 points). But K850 lose quite a lot in the post-processing algorithm (i.e. 8 vs 5 in favor of N82/95). And this is what reviewer has to say about the K850 post-processing.
Sony Ericsson K850 also uses noise suppression routine, but it is less intelligent than the one of N95 and in certain places it simply eradicates the really fine details. You can see how much details are sometimes lost. The noise suppression algorithm also sometimes has a problem with the edge detection thus removing significant amount of detail in low contrast areas of the image.
So it is a fallacy that N82/95 that do over-processing and suppress details. In fact, K850 is the culprit that do over-processing to the points that details are lost. Most probably to try to hide the photo noise due to cheap sensor and lens but to no avail as photo noise is still abundant in K850 photos.
[ This Message was edited by: mib1800 on 2008-01-24 01:45 ]
Well i just had a look at M-R review of the N82 in comparison to the K850 and gsmarenas above statements seem rather unjustified if i can just show you what i mean:
N82
K850
I have no idea wheter it was the photographers fault or not, but just certain parts of the picture seem to blur, while the rest of the photo is in focus and has good sharpness. Heres another example:
N82
K850
So which review do you go by? M-R sample shots show a rather different story to Gsmarena.
[ This Message was edited by: soane28 on 2008-01-24 05:25 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-24 05:34:53
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someone said before that N82 have little more color saturation and k850 have better details.............so very true.
there is no cell phone on earth who take 100% perfect pics, its impossible...to small sensor and to small lens for that kind of job...if you want perfect landscape pics all time, bye a system camera.
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-01-24 07:25 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-24 08:23:26
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@soane28
How about this comparison from. Which phone has more details?
Now then, which review do we believe?
http://mobilenet.cz/recenze/c[....]ia-n82-vs.-sony-ericsson-k850i
100% crop
N82
K850
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Posted: 2008-01-24 10:07:39
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Mib1800: Please dont take me in the wrong way. I just wanted to point out that both mobiles preform differently in other reviews. Id rather not rely on one review to decide which one is better, so thanks for showing me this review
The quality of both phones tends to vary across reviews, which has just been demonstrated by myself and Mib1800 . Both seem to provide good details at times and at other times produce really bad detail.
All that i can say is that the N82 has more saturation and better colours. Both mobiles can be similarly sharp, providing the K850 uses document mode.
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Posted: 2008-01-25 09:48:26
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better colors ????? when its sunshine yes, but the rest... no way !!!
this pics tell everything...N82 cant handle details (or colors) if its not sunshine.
(i have seen many similar N82 pics on Flickr.com with the same bad quality).
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-01-25 12:47 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-25 13:34:19
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Huh, the K850i's pic is soooo over-sharpened ! ! ! Practicaly useless for further editing ! ! ! I hope the pic has been 'heavely manipulated' by who ever posted it - otherwise the k850i has a extremely overexpressed 'sharpen' function
On the other hand the N82 is more focused on the back ground and the pic is fairly natural. Now I see why the k850i is trailing the N82 in sales. Nice, informative tread
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Posted: 2008-01-25 17:38:00
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