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Well, i think it's just plain faultfinding if there are negative replies regarding the increased/better specs of the unreleased device on this thread. It's a bit over the top to criticize a good thing, don't you think? Well i think Bengalboy's review has straight up convinced me that i'm staying on with a Sony Ericsson. P5 is such a disappointment, so X1 is my definite choice for an upgrade (an upgrade in every single way indeed) since no other device in the market has the P-series flip. It'll definitely be missed
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Posted: 2008-05-27 07:54:23
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On 2008-05-24 19:58:22, max_wedge wrote:
nevertheless dogmann and others, long standby times are advantageous because it means when the phone is not being used it uses far less battery than phones without such good standby, leaving more battery reserve for non-standby use.
My Atom Exec has a long stand-by but when I use it, it can just last slightly more than a day. On the other hand, my N82 has a much shorter standby time but it lasts twice as long than Exec when in normal use. I think for WM stand-by consumes very little power due to the 2-cpu design. But it gushes down power when in use.
standby for 5 weeks
5 weeks standby? You really believe this?
If two phones have equivalent talk time but one has a much longer standby time, then the phone with longer standby time will give more effective talk time. The only time this doesn't apply is if the phone is never in standby mode, which would mean you would have to talk straight for 10 hours everyday. Most people talk for no more than 3-4 hours a day (most usually a lot less) so good standby times significantly increase the time between recharge. To write off long standby times as pointless because no one leaves a phone on standby for 5 weeks completely misses the point of reducing a phone's power use in standby mode.
You have not thought thru this. WM consumes very little power during standby but gushes power like mad when use. The few days stand-by will only buy you very little usage time
Regarding the 256MB, okay so the phone was slow with 128 so thy upped it to 256, why is this a proof the phone is slow?? Surely they are doing the right thing and simply giving the phone the resources it needs?
If you bought a computer with 512MB of ram and it was slow, would you blame the OS, or would you just go out and buy another stiock of memory?
A phone needs what it needs. If SE increased the memory this is only a sign that they are attending to it's needs, not a sign the software is poorly written. I can't believe people moaned that X1 hasn't enough memory, and now that it has more they are complaining that it's a sign of the phone software being dodgy
I thought the RAM was added because the panel cannot run otherwise. The phone will still be slow as it seems that the panel is one piece of bloated software. No amount of RAM can help here. I think there is no such thing as pagefile in WM so it is not like speed will increase due to less swapping of RAM pages to disk.
If SE has done a good job, then the panel software should be optimised properly and thus do not need such huge amount of RAM. Requiring a RAM increase is not a good thing actually as this shows SE has not optimised the panel software.
The new whitepaper has brought two seriously major advantages to the X1 platform, and some people just can't help but twist it into something bad (or at best inconsequential). These are major improvements to the spec and ought to be applauded.
There is no advantage/improvement. The way I see it is that it is just the necessity of the day.
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Posted: 2008-05-27 10:37:19
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Requiring a RAM increase is not a good thing actually as this shows SE has not optimised the panel software.
which is why the phone hasnt been released yet? duh?
reading anti-SE fanboy comments is always a hoot but your post(s) surely take the cake: now adding RAM is a bad thing? lol
[ This Message was edited by: sassafras on 2008-05-27 09:55 ]
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Posted: 2008-05-27 10:48:08
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@sassafras and all,
What i find truly unbelievable is that anyone that dares criticise SE in any way is always a fan boy of another make or anti SE and a SE basher without reason.
Whilst all the SE fan boys gushing praise and talking up SE are always spot on. I remember not so long ago a thread saying SE will be No:2 by the end of 2007 and sell 200 million handsets and we all know what happened there don't we.
It is then suggested that people that criticise SE are delusional well actually i really think it's the SE fan boys as proved by the fact that far from being No:2 or even holding on to No:3 they are slipping towards if not already at No:5.
If the rumors of the P5 spec's are correct and there will be no new UIQ devices with improved spec's until Q2 2009 earliest and the X1 won't ship till October/November. It s going to be another very tough year for SE as all around continue to release new devices with larger screens and faster processors SE will lag even further behind, which is so sad for a company that once always led.
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Posted: 2008-05-27 11:12:55
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On 2008-05-27 10:48:08, sassafras wrote:
Requiring a RAM increase is not a good thing actually as this shows SE has not optimised the panel software.
which is why the phone hasnt been released yet? duh?
reading anti-SE fanboy comments is always a hoot but your post(s) surely take the cake: now adding RAM is a bad thing? lol
[ This Message was edited by: sassafras on 2008-05-27 09:55 ]
What I meant is that the increase in RAM is due to necessity of the panel software and not for purpose to improve the spec.
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Posted: 2008-05-27 11:15:59
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But honestly, do you really think that the panels are more ram hungry than the touchflo 3d? I dont. As far as I can tell those panels are generated screenshots of applications running in the background or for a quick start.
Nothing that special.
And I really dont believe that SE will come up with a fancy touchflo 3d panels UI, like some members mentioned it on here a few pages back. When did SE do such thing as surprise their customers AFTER the announced product and bring something new unannounced?
[ This Message was edited by: BIG-Stan on 2008-05-27 12:01 ]
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Posted: 2008-05-27 13:00:05
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@mib1800
Omg! Trully youre over dramatizing over a HOMESCREEN as if its X1 os!
If you dont like it just deactivate it! ZIP and your problem was goner!
You know i will buys X1 not because its damn panel, but the WM os
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Posted: 2008-05-27 13:09:00
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On 2008-05-27 11:15:59, mib1800 wrote:
On 2008-05-27 10:48:08, sassafras wrote:
Requiring a RAM increase is not a good thing actually as this shows SE has not optimised the panel software.
which is why the phone hasnt been released yet? duh?
reading anti-SE fanboy comments is always a hoot but your post(s) surely take the cake: now adding RAM is a bad thing? lol
[ This Message was edited by: sassafras on 2008-05-27 09:55 ]
What I meant is that the increase in RAM is due to necessity of the panel software and not for purpose to improve the spec.
Maybe, but as a result, it does improve the specs.
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Posted: 2008-05-27 13:19:07
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sometimes, more RAM does the job better than a higher CPU clock speed with lower RAM, so adding RAM? it's a definite goodie!
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Posted: 2008-05-27 13:29:07
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Using windows mobile, do we have any chances to encounter any viruses??
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Posted: 2008-05-27 13:32:43
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