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#Plankgatan
Dear plankgatan
I simply cannot understand why you are completely blind to the errors of the pictures produced by K850, C902 and C905
The amount of overall picture noise, edge noise, compression noise are simply devastating to the pictures - it destroys all detail
Take your own pictures as example
Just look at the amount of imagenoise/edgenoise in the full size pictures you posted before - even though taken under sunny bright conditions
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01901mt3.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01470wv9.jpg
The noise are all over the pictures and destroying every detail
Here are 2 small crops to illustrate - at original resolution, no resizing, no tampering.
But its everywhere in the pictures if you look a litle closer - these pictures are only usefull when resized down to hide all the noice and/or postprocessed with heavy noice filtering. Please dont tell me you cannot see this - cause then you seriously need to get your eyes checked.
Compare those to the sample shots from the Samsung like this taken in worse conditions, grey rainy day
http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]a/vs-canon/high/03-samsung.jpg
Theres no hint of noise compared to the SE pictures, no edge noice, no color noise, no compression noice - look at how clean the edges are even when you zoom in.
The problem is that even my old K750 did not suffer from this noice problem, sure the resolution was smaller - but that doesnt matter - you could take full size pictures under good conditions which where absolutely clean with no noise.
Then theres all the other problems with color and whitebalance on the K850 - I wont even get into those now.
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Posted: 2008-08-06 16:55:18
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help you to get the big picture about this oil-painting.
this is the example of a digital camera that has the effect:
this is the example of a digital camera that doesn't have the effect:
see any difference? both in low light. but the details aren't there in the 1st cam (oh.. it's a
6MP cam btw - the 2nd one is
3.2MP camera).
btw.. seeing Eldar's review, I'm shocked of how ixus 700 behaves. awful.
comparing to this (is 100% crop from ixus 430 - original):
after some retouches now it has kinda-oil painting effects:
so it's not that normal that every cam certainly have the issue. not every cam.
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[ This Message was edited by: Amras on 2008-08-06 16:19 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-06 17:15:56
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@Guto ViP:
Obrigado!
Google Translate ftw!
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Posted: 2008-08-06 17:34:29
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Sassho is here men
Yes....G600 have not bad camera but :
Awesome review of camera i8510 by E.Murtazin
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/samsung-innov8-camera.shtml
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[ This Message was edited by: Sassho on 2008-08-06 17:20 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-06 18:17:41
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On 2008-08-06 16:15:15, se_dude wrote:
This has turned into a C902 vs Innov8 war here.Poor C905.
You mean poor INNOV8 if its being compared to the C902.
Its really funny how each picture example is zoomed in and examined at an almost microscopic level - its insane.
The C905 and INNOV8 don't take terrible pictues, they both take great pictures and from the examples I have seen, the differences are almost minimal.
You don't really have to try too hard to find fault with most cameraphone pictures, they are cameraphones afterall, not digicams.
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Posted: 2008-08-06 18:18:04
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On 2008-08-06 18:18:04, goldenface wrote:
On 2008-08-06 16:15:15, se_dude wrote:
This has turned into a C902 vs Innov8 war here.Poor C905.
You mean poor INNOV8 if its being compared to the C902.
Its really funny how each picture example is zoomed in and examined at an almost microscopic level - its insane.
The C905 and INNOV8 don't take terrible pictues, they both take great pictures and from the examples I have seen, the differences are almost minimal.
You don't really have to try too hard to find fault with most cameraphone pictures, they are cameraphones afterall, not digicams.
I'll remind you of this post the next time you critize any non-SE for having a less than stellar picture.
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Posted: 2008-08-06 19:00:38
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On 2008-08-06 18:18:04, goldenface wrote:
You don't really have to try too hard to find fault with most cameraphone pictures, they are cameraphones afterall, not digicams.
i8510 and C905 show that camphones will become more like digicams slowly slowly.
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Posted: 2008-08-06 19:14:53
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Yes but a dedicated 8MP cam will always be superior to a mobile 8 MP cam because of the sensor size. I'm still amazed that mobile cams have come this far.
This message was posted from a K850i
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Posted: 2008-08-06 20:29:30
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Of course that's true. I meant users will buy 8-10MP camphones more as an alternative to dedicated digicams, so they will try to find every single fault on the pics(to pick the best).
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Posted: 2008-08-06 20:56:05
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Nothing wrong with being critical of products which are basically advertised on lies.
The manufacturers spend alot of advertising money trying to convince everyone of how great these cams are and how much they are like a "real" cams.
Then dont whine if consumers examine their claims, and critisize if their claims are wrong, highly exagerated or sometimes even close to being a fraud.
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Posted: 2008-08-06 21:20:27
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