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I like the way you say that I can't think by myself, that I am unable to see the truth from so-called facts, that I am a slave.
For your information, I own a phd degree in physical chemistry, am a researcher in atmospheric chemistry and physics for more than twenty years and deal almost every day with the kind of pictures you are presenting. I know exactly what they are showing and it has strictly nothing to do with what you state simply because you want to prove something which for you is a revealed truth. You know, science is exactly the reverse of your way of thinking. In real scientific research, you measure things and from there you develop a theory and derive facts. You do exactly the opposite: State that a fact is true, and then on try to prove it, even by distorting the meaning of actual measurements. Please read what is written as a title at the bottom of the original pictures, it says DUST on each of them. And dust is NOT clouds or chemtrails.
[ This Message was edited by: michka on 2010-03-24 00:06 ]
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Posted: 2010-03-24 01:01:02
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On 2010-03-23 22:35:50, arien617 wrote:
EDIT: I made a massively stupid comment regarding emission spectra. Statement retracted.
EDIT2: No, wait, surely you can view these gasses emission spectra?
[ This Message was edited by: arien617 on 2010-03-23 21:45 ]
Yes for sure you can "see" gases in the atmosphere by their emission spectra. However, it is of course easier during night. During day, the emission spectrum of the atmosphere is obviously strongly obscured by the absorption spectrum produced by either the direct light from the sun or the light reflected by the earth or the low lying clouds.
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Posted: 2010-03-24 01:05:52
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I own a phd degree in physical chemistry, am a researcher in atmospheric chemistry and physics for more than twenty years and deal almost every day with the kind of pictures you are presenting. I know exactly what they are showing
and you cannot see chemtrails?
In real scientific research, you measure things and from there you develop a theory and derive facts.
it’s what i’m doing!!! Measure mean to look at the colours of the picture, that mean different measures…do you know mr. researcher?
Please read what is written as a title at the bottom of the original pictures, it says DUST on each of them. And dust is NOT clouds or chemtrails
It could be dust or sh*t, the colours would be always the same, their statement is “The main purpose of the European Organisation for the Exploitation of Meteorological Satellites (EUMETSAT) is to deliver weather and climate-related satellite data”, DUST is one kind of measure that shows exactly the poisonous chemical aerosol
Finally no doubts: you recognize perfectly the red with the blue colour
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Posted: 2010-03-24 02:35:34
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YOU decided that the colours are representative of clouds and chemtrails. That's not what is said anywhere on the ESA site you take your pics from.
Or is it so well knonw that clouds are red? I guess you know that those colours are false colours, don't you?
Red, blue and green show the amount of light absorbed by dust in three different infra-red channels. They do not, I repeat do not represent different species.
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Posted: 2010-03-24 03:45:17
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On 2010-03-24 01:05:52, michka wrote:
On 2010-03-23 22:35:50, arien617 wrote:
EDIT: I made a massively stupid comment regarding emission spectra. Statement retracted.
EDIT2: No, wait, surely you can view these gasses emission spectra?
[ This Message was edited by: arien617 on 2010-03-23 21:45 ]
Yes for sure you can "see" gases in the atmosphere by their emission spectra. However, it is of course easier during night. During day, the emission spectrum of the atmosphere is obviously strongly obscured by the absorption spectrum produced by either the direct light from the sun or the light reflected by the earth or the low lying clouds.
Well, by that, it's possible to prove or disprove there is something out of the ordinary with these 'chemtrails', forever ending the argument over their existence.
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Posted: 2010-03-24 16:32:52
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Let us assume all the trails seen in the sky are from planes. Of course the white trail you see is mainly water. But water is not the only species coming out of motors which burn kerozene. So, in a way they are all chemtrails anyway.
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Posted: 2010-03-25 00:48:21
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On 2010-03-24 03:45:17, michka wrote:
YOU decided that the colours are representative of clouds and chemtrails. That's not what is said anywhere on the ESA site you take your pics from.
You don’t know what you are talking about, from eumetsat.com:
“Dust is an RGB composite based upon infrared channel data from the Meteosat Second Generation satellite. It is designed to monitor the evolution of dust storms during both day and night. The Dust RGB is composed from data from a combination of the SEVIRI IR8.7, IR10.8 and IR12.0 channels”
“E-View is an RGB composite based upon data from the Meteosat Second Generation satellite. It is dedicated to detailed cloud monitoring of the European region. It is based on data from the SEVIRI High Resolution Visible channel combined with data from the IR10.8 channel.”
MET9 RGB-Dust 2010-03-28 16 : 00 UTC
MET9 RGB-Eview 2010-03-28 16 : 00 UTC
Different RGB composite with the same meaning: clouds are showed by red and orange colours in the Dust RGB composite, chemtrails with blue and purple colours.
Today 2010-03-28 11 : 00 UTC
So, since what i’m showing are facts that cannot be changed, there ara two possibilies
Betting odds:
- Debunker 1.01
- Slave 1000
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Posted: 2010-03-28 20:31:40
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For the last time: where is it written that blue colour = chemtrails?
YOU decided that, me guess.
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Posted: 2010-03-29 01:02:41
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@-PERFECT- claims there are heavy metals in these 'chemtrails' - a spectrometer will show these up with blinding ease, even if they were mixed with combusted fuel products, right?
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Posted: 2010-03-29 18:49:52
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On 2010-03-29 01:02:41, michka wrote:
For the last time: where is it written that blue colour = chemtrails?
YOU decided that, me guess.
If you see a “strange brown thing” on the ground, do you have to read anywhere that it’s a shit to be sure of it?
By the way, on eumetsat site you can read:
Prominent features: CONTRAILS
Blue colour is chemtrails…ops…contrails… right mr. deb?
@arien: the toxic metals contained in chemtrails aren’t mixed with fuel products, they are in separate tanks and have different diffusers.
Spectrometer will show heavy metal in chemtrails? Show me it.
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Posted: 2010-03-31 03:36:51
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