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max_wedge Posts: > 500


On 2010-07-12 10:58:58, norbi_nw wrote:
i really dont know why kinetic scrolling is bugging you as i used it in the 5230 and it was super. How the hell can you search the 1500 media on the phone with no kinetic scrolling? sometimes i stop browsing and the song i am looking for is right off the screen. Dragging the bar a bit (when 1500files are browsed) makes it jump about 10-20 songs.. the 5230 has nice kinetic scrolling and a sidebar, that works fine. So use the bar if you dont like the scrolling. Bar for big jumps - then with kinetic simply "fine search" up/down 5-10 songs.. what can be more simple?



I do use the scrollbar, but on the Samsung i8910 atleast, kinetic scrolling is too sensitive and goes flying off when I'm still looking at an image and tilt the phone a little. A want to be able to use precise finger movements to control it, not suddenly flying off at the slightest hand movement. But hey if it works for you I'm not knocking it. Just don't see it as a major ommission for a flagship handset released when Satio was. Not something to be pissed about, just it is what it is.

Hey, native avi support for divx would be nice, but there are ways around it. It's a smartphone, that's the beauty of it. The volume control disabled when locked is a disappointment though. But these are only the two main flaws with the Satio. Every flagship phone on the market is missing something, it's no great crime.

btw, scrolling media is fast, I have 8GB of music probably around 2-3000 tracks. If you swipe firmly upwards, then stop and hold at the top of the screen, the list will scroll quickly until you remove your finger. It'll go through the whole collection rather quickly. Kinetic scrolling is a want for some people, but it's not needed - the handset is still just as usable without it.

@monaco
huh? I bought into this flagship phone because I wanted an accurate, efficient phone that could do basic things awesomely and then some.
from where I'm sitting, they achieved that goal. No problems with slowness other than the same you'd get on any s60 device, but it's more stable yet than any s60 device I've owned. I can't say it's ever crashed on me, other than when I've had to restart manually to close some piece of crap software whose task can't be killed off in activefile.

Most people I've come across with the satio are happy with it.

Anyway guys, I wish you luck with your phones, but I'm not convinced that the majority of handsets are fault ridden. After you put aside unrealistic user preferance complaints, and crashing handsets (which should just be returned under warranty imho - if it can't be fixed by the latest firmware, which is stable, demand a new handset), the vast majority of handsets are working as designed.
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Posted: 2010-07-14 07:00:40
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Monaco Posts: 149

My friend just got the Samsung Galaxy S and let me say that it puts my Satio to shame, then throws a blanket over it and proceeds to beat it down with a spiky metal rod. The tech and even just the android app store alone (in free quality apps) puts shame to SE, Satio and playnowarena.

The Satio, and even the Xperia x10 can't even come close to the greatness that the Galaxy achieves. It is very sad, very sad indeed.

If it wasn't for the camera and xenon flash, I'd really want to throw this phone against a brick wall...
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Posted: 2010-07-14 08:22:25
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

Well, comparing Android and s60 really comes down to user preference - they are both capable phone operating systems.

True the Android Market and the Apple Appstore are way ahead of ovi or playnow, but there is so much software available for s60 it's not hard to find what you need using google, who needs an app store?

Personally I don't love android. It shares too many similiarities to iphone, but not as stable. I respect it's open source nature, and I'm sure I'll have a lot of fun hacking my garmin-asus 'droid. However it's not my first choice as a phone os. That would be windows mobile for touchscreen (with s60 in second place - or atleast the Satio rendition of s60) and SE A200 for non-touchscreen phones.

If Satio ran Windows Mobile, that would be my perfect phone

As it is it's still pretty damn good.



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Posted: 2010-07-14 10:58:19
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max_wedge Posts: > 500


On 2010-07-14 08:22:25, Monaco wrote:
My friend just got the Samsung Galaxy S and let me say that it puts my Satio to shame, then throws a blanket over it and proceeds to beat it down with a spiky metal rod. The tech and even just the android app store alone (in free quality apps) puts shame to SE, Satio and playnowarena. The Satio, and even the Xperia x10 can't even come close to the greatness that the Galaxy achieves. It is very sad, very sad indeed.

A little unfair, when you consider the galaxy s was released a month ago, the Satio in October 2009 (and the release was late). Even then the only difference in spec is the HD recording, Screen resolution, "n" (draft) wifi, native divx support, bluetooth 3.0 and multitouch. All features that have only started to become common on flagship handsets since after the satio was released. None of those with the exception of divx support are possible through firmware updates alone.

Multi-touch is an interesting one, standard to Android 2.1 but also Samsung have cracked a version for Windows Mobile as well! S60 doesn't have it yet imho. I can live without it.


If it wasn't for the camera and xenon flash, I'd really want to throw this phone against a brick wall...

Maybe you should buy the galaxy s and donate your Satio to the blendtec guys....I imagine that would be a satisfying feeling since Satio is giving you a heap of grief
iPhone will it blend?


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Posted: 2010-07-14 11:33:36
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exaflare23 Posts: 227

i suggest to all unhappy satio users, don't throw away your satio but keep it clean dust free scratch free until N8 was released then you can sell your satio for high price hehe! then buy N8

forget about satio,SE lost their interest on Symbian and focus on android.

move on!!!
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Posted: 2010-07-14 11:44:30
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

I'm not a huge fan of s60, but it does the job.

I'd rather the next flagship camera phone from SE run windows 7


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Posted: 2010-07-14 11:56:44
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exaflare23 Posts: 227

if SE cant fix satio, their 1st s60v5

how come they will produce a good phone running on new Os windows 7

windows mobile 7 is much advance compare to symbian s60v5.
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Posted: 2010-07-14 12:07:36
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ijat91 Posts: 39

if SE cant fix satio, their 1st s60v5

how come they will produce a good phone running on new Os windows 7

windows mobile 7 is much advance compare to symbian s60v5.


that why i dont trust SE anymore....
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Posted: 2010-07-14 12:59:48
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max_wedge Posts: > 500


On 2010-07-14 12:07:36, exaflare23 wrote:
if SE cant fix satio, their 1st s60v5

how come they will produce a good phone running on new Os windows 7

windows mobile 7 is much advance compare to symbian s60v5.


Can't fix Satio???

Mine's fine. Please tell me what needs fixing?

btw, windows is a much more stable OS than s60, so chances are that it will run better than s60 on SE phones. Certainly the X1 runs fine.
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Posted: 2010-07-14 13:16:20
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Monaco Posts: 149


On 2010-07-14 10:58:19, max_wedge wrote:
Well, comparing Android and s60 really comes down to user preference - they are both capable phone operating systems.

True the Android Market and the Apple Appstore are way ahead of ovi or playnow, but there is so much software available for s60 it's not hard to find what you need using google, who needs an app store?

Personally I don't love android. It shares too many similiarities to iphone, but not as stable. I respect it's open source nature, and I'm sure I'll have a lot of fun hacking my garmin-asus 'droid. However it's not my first choice as a phone os. That would be windows mobile for touchscreen (with s60 in second place - or atleast the Satio rendition of s60) and SE A200 for non-touchscreen phones.

If Satio ran Windows Mobile, that would be my perfect phone

As it is it's still pretty damn good.


You ain't convincin me buddy.

Who needs an app store? is this not 2010? SE better play a good heart game of catch-up or...actually-nevermind, there are sub-standard SE owners all over the world that thinks their phone is just dandy so SE doesn't see any issues for what they are.

Maybe I will just ship my phone for a new one seeing as 'everybody else' isn't having problems...


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Posted: 2010-07-14 21:31:37
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