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Gotta try some of that Sony juice, seems almost all these analysts are drinking it.
Only Melissa Chau makes sense in that article, the rest, as S4k1s put it- they are talking
out of their a&¡¿ƒ
[ This Message was edited by: Dups! on 2011-10-13 21:25 ]
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Posted: 2011-10-13 22:22:03
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On 2011-10-13 21:45:50, S4k1s wrote:
On 2011-10-13 20:48:45, goldenface wrote:
More from
BBC News.
Some saying Sony needs to take hold of the fast growing Smartphone segment in order to stay in the black.
The potentially successful mobile business is hampered by having two parents to please.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2011-10-13 19:49 ]
"When the joint venture was formed, mobile phone technology was simple and Ericsson's inputs in that area suited Sony's purposes," says Tim Charlton of Charlton Media.
"Now things have changed. Phones are much more advanced and Sony feels it is hampered by the fact that Ericsson doesn't bring much to the table with regard to the smartphone segment," he explains.
"It is clear that the smartphone is at the heart of the consumer electronic experience," he says. "Sony must be feeling frustrated that they are locked out of this domain."
Sry but someone is talking out of hiss ass.
I agree. Poor form to blame Ericsson. It's a joint venture but Sony Ericsson is a separate company, working under it's own management. If Sony don't want to contribute consumer technology to the joint venture, it's because they are trying to weaken SE to make Ericsson think about being bought out (at a low price). Ericsson has leadership in networks (LTE for example) and Voice technology. The facts is they have an equal fifty percent to contribute. A phone is not just about flashy smartphone features; it still has to function well as a mobile phone. Left to their own devices, Sony will make proprietary, ergonomically inferior handsets pandering to the other arms of the Sony empire (designed to lock you into Sony at the cost of broader functionality).
Under Sony design will be driven by what sells more Sony technology, and not what makes the best smartphone handset. This is not the way to bring SE back into market leadership. Sony Ericsson are relying on Ericsson more than ever, to ensure the company remains relevant and flexible to the demands of the modern smartphone market.
When you think about it, why should SE have to use Sony technology if it's not the best technology out there? Surely it's in Sony's best interest to have to compete for Sony Ericssons dollar just as it does for other mobile oems? If they allow themselves to suck off the blood of SE because they want a cushy market for their consumer electronics technologies it's just gonna bring both companies down. The fact that Sony are only now looking at buying Ericsson out, is A SUREFIRE SIGN that SE is a going concern. They are thinking if they buy Ericsson out now, the mobile phone division will become a cash cow that they can milk the crap out of. They are too greedy to see that in the long run it's going to kill their aspirations of having a market leading mobile brand.
I don't know who the hell Tim Charlton is but he doesn't have a clue about business and competition.
Stick with it Ericsson! Don't sell!
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Posted: 2011-10-14 16:59:11
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I'm NOT counting tech introduced by
but just the parent companies when they had their respective mobile divisions... and their contributions today apart from
Ericsson's claim to fame in the mobile phone world:
Past:
-Bluetooth (everything is better w/ Bluetooth)
-Tabbed menu (ala browser, adopted by UIQ)
-Symbian UIQ (R.I.P)
-First manufacturer to use LiPol battery
-One of the first to introduce tri-band, color-screen, Bluetooth and LiPol in one phone
-Magnesium frame (adpoted by Xperia ray)
-IPX7 rated mobile phone (adopted by Xperia Active)
-flip-out keypad PDA phone R380 (adopted by P800, P900, P910, P990)
Present:
-one of 3G standards partner/creator
-one 4G LTE standards partner/creator
-HSPA+ 84 mbps developers
Sony's claim to fame in the mobile phone world:
Past:
-Jogdial
-Memorystick
Present:
-Exmor R CMOS sensor
-Bravia Software Engine
-Playstation software engine
*I'm not sure if Sony is the one manufacturing the screens for
, if they are, then add that to the 'present' line-up for Sony*
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Posted: 2011-10-14 19:34:05
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I remember now they made Bluetooth. I also remember the LiPol batteries which lasted for ages & could be made to any size as far as I remember. I think the magnesium frame & Lipol battery was in phones like the t39 which I loved!! As for colour screens yes the original t68 was one of the first but I think Siemens were the first to make a colour screen phone with a model called the s25 I think but it had no back light. This model was one of the first ever colour phones I THINK along with Ericsson t68
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Posted: 2011-10-14 20:10:03
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bit of nostalgia...
First colour fone?
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Posted: 2011-10-14 20:21:04
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Ahh,will read that thanks
So I was right then the Siemens as I remember it well
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2011-10-14 19:45 ]
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Posted: 2011-10-14 20:42:00
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On 2011-10-14 16:59:11, max_wedge wrote:
Stick with it Ericsson! Don't sell!
I just had a picture of you outside SE's offices with a placard with those words
I would join you to be honest.
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Posted: 2011-10-14 21:02:11
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Yeah a big banner we should all protest if it happens
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Posted: 2011-10-14 21:13:30
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On 2011-10-14 20:42:00, Bonovox wrote:
Ahh,will read that thanks
So I was right then the Siemens as I remember it well
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Yes, the Siemens was the first with the color screen, but noting else... the T68 had all those features combined in one phone, a first at the time, specially at that size.
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Posted: 2011-10-14 21:35:49
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I used to love Siemens but they went off the boil after a while
It's just been on BBC Business News about
shifting to smart phones only next year. And the reporter went on to say that
refused to comment on weather Sony is buying out Sony Ericsson or not
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Posted: 2011-10-14 21:37:29
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