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On 2013-03-17 16:54:25, Indiandawg wrote:
There's going to be pros & cons about Sony & Samsung. We must appreciate that both are amazing companies who has done very well in the past and present.
Copying designs or taking concepts from other companies is nothing new. It's done with millions of other companies but if you do it and you come out with a great product, that's still considered good.
I think we should focus on Innovation. Since this thread is about S4, instead of talking about all the negative or positive side of it, let's talk about how much can we take out of S4, how much can it helps us. Show the videos where it can help the consumer in their day to day life. We use smartphones to make our lives easier & faster. It's nice to see the S band and I wish Sony also comes out with something like that in the near future.
Remember, we all have our own favourite companies like I love Sony, but it's not necessary to bash other companies.
Respect each others like. And there is nothing wrong to be a fan boy of Sony or Samsung, if you love it, be proud of it!
Indiandawg, that's not the point Samsung is never amazing company because they steal other companies technology and then claiming they have invented and that's what i not accept that Samsung is a amazing companies.
In the past many tech companies sues Samsung for stealing their patent and even their design, samsung is big because of false competition with government support.
Sony on the other hand, they always work hard for new technology and spent Billions of dollars on it, And Samsung do not. I accept that Sony is a amazing companies, but Samsung never with their big mouth of theirs.
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Posted: 2013-03-17 20:48:01
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On 2013-03-17 16:54:25, Indiandawg wrote:
There's going to be pros & cons about Sony & Samsung. We must appreciate that both are amazing companies who has done very well in the past and present.
Copying designs or taking concepts from other companies is nothing new. It's done with millions of other companies but if you do it and you come out with a great product, that's still considered good.
I think we should focus on Innovation. Since this thread is about S4, instead of talking about all the negative or positive side of it, let's talk about how much can we take out of S4, how much can it helps us. Show the videos where it can help the consumer in their day to day life. We use smartphones to make our lives easier & faster. It's nice to see the S band and I wish Sony also comes out with something like that in the near future.
Remember, we all have our own favourite companies like I love Sony, but it's not necessary to bash other companies.
Respect each others like. And there is nothing wrong to be a fan boy of Sony or Samsung, if you love it, be proud of it!
+1 exactly, but you see many want to clutch at straws, Samsung have made great products and its thanks to them that Android is where it is now, some would rather accuse them of "stealing" due to Samsung doing better than their favourite brand, yet Samsung has done exactly the same thing as other phone makers have been doing for decades, I can't take anyone who simply says Samsung is a copycat seriously, we might as well call EVERY other phone maker a copycat, including Sony.
WRT loving brands, I once "loved" Sony Ericsson, then Nokia, you know what I realised in the end? If I were to be in any kind of trouble, chances are SE, Nokia etc...wouldn't be there, they wouldn't be there to keep me positive if I were in a hospital bed, they wouldn't be there if I lost a family member or friend, they wouldn't be there if i broke up with my gf etc...What they want is my money, that goes for Apple, Samsung, Sony, Nokia etc.... BUT what I don't like is credit not being given where its due, and many here just can't do it due to their hate of a brand, a brand being blamed for practices every other company does. I've found myself defending the XZ in some forums, iPhone5 in others etc...this the ONE forum where I've defended multiple brands at once, and its a recent thing, seems there's been some sort of influx of EXTREME Sony lovers on a mission to bash every brand that isn't Sony.
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Posted: 2013-03-17 21:38:22
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On 2013-03-17 16:54:25, Indiandawg wrote:
Copying designs or taking concepts from other companies is nothing new. It's done with millions of other companies but if you do it and you come out with a great product, that's still considered good.
+1, and it is still innovation. Everybody looks to other for inspirasjon, man has done that since the wheel was invented
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Posted: 2013-03-17 21:46:03
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On 2013-03-17 21:46:03, rikken wrote:
On 2013-03-17 16:54:25, Indiandawg wrote:
Copying designs or taking concepts from other companies is nothing new. It's done with millions of other companies but if you do it and you come out with a great product, that's still considered good.
+1, and it is still innovation. Everybody looks to other for inspirasjon, man has done that since the wheel was invented
Give me one what Samsung has invented, i still seek that tech from them.
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Posted: 2013-03-17 21:56:39
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On 2013-03-17 21:46:03, rikken wrote:
+1, and it is still innovation.
No, it's not. It's evolution i.e. improvement of somebody else's innovation (well, sometimes things can also go backwards and get worse).
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2013-03-17 21:02 ]
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Posted: 2013-03-17 21:58:42
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I don't believe you understand what a hugh company Samsung is :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung
But this is the G S IV tread so back on topic. . . . . . . . .
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Posted: 2013-03-17 22:01:38
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As a consumer I couldn't be bothered who invented what, it's about who creates the best package that we can buy. If we were to be so concerned about who exactly invented what we wouldn't be buying products from companies such as Samsung, Sony, Apple etc... Much of this technology was patented decades ago by multiple companies, some of them very tiny companies who got bought/swallowed up by bigger companies like Microsoft, Google, Samsung, Htc, Sony, Nokia etc...
Samsung in itself is in such a wide variety of businesses from medical equipment, chemicals, telecommunications etc... I have no idea of what they have invented, nor do I care, what I do know is that they seem to be one of the best at almost everything they do, and seem to be the only other company other than Apple that is now focused on building a solid Eco system.
As a Samsung and Apple user I've been able to realize just what makes them the only companies that make actual profits in their businesses, and why they pretty much own Mobile.
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Posted: 2013-03-17 22:11:36
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Am bored now everyone so lets shut up and move on. @Rikken,the wheel?? Didn't you know Apple invented the wheel
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Posted: 2013-03-17 22:13:00
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That must have been the iWheel
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Posted: 2013-03-17 22:15:11
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On 2013-03-17 22:01:38, rikken wrote:
I don't believe you understand what a hugh company Samsung is :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung
But this is the G S IV tread so back on topic. . . . . . . . .
Gooooodness me, they started in 1938!!???
And when we look at Samsung Electronics specifically, they have come quite a long way:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Electronics
Just as I said., they pretty much do well in everything they are in
Samsung Electronics is the world's largest mobile phone maker by 2011 unit sales and world's second-largest semiconductor chip maker by 2011 revenues (after Intel Corporation). It has been the world's largest television manufacturer since 2006 and the world's largest maker of LCD panels for eight consecutive years.[5] It has the largest marketshare worldwide in memory chips.[6] The company is the world's largest vendor of smartphones since 2011.[7] Samsung has also established a prominent position in the tablet computer market, with the release of the Android-powered Samsung Galaxy Tab.
It gets even more interesting:
In 2005, Samsung Electronics surpassed Japanese rival, Sony, for the first time to become the world's twentieth-largest and most popular consumer brand, as measured by Interbrand.
And would you look at this, as I've been saying, Samsung were on their way to success even before Android:
In 2007, Samsung Electronics became the world's second-largest mobile-phone maker, overtaking Motorola for the first time.[17] In 2009, Samsung achieved total revenues of US$117.4 billion, overtaking Hewlett-Packard to become the world's largest technology company measured by sales.
And thi was a little interesting:
As of 2006, it held more than 600 American patents and more than 2,800 international patents, making it the largest owner of AMOLED technology patents.
This is a company with quite a lot of history,, it's actually quite scary to think how large and dominant they could become due to their sheer size and resources, they could end up buying some of the older and dying Japanese brands, amongst others in the long run.
Anyway back to the GS4, were totally losing track here.
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Posted: 2013-03-17 22:28:39
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