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They are presenting on the 11th next month.
It seems like they will be pushing the zoom from the 808 as "new" technology, which makes sense... most people don't even know that the 808 exists.
For those of you who still don't know how it all works:
The zoom "crop" tech in the 808 is directly related to the mpix count you want to use.. the larger the picture, the less zoom you have at your disposal.
The most important aspect of this is that.. you have no movable parts, and the aperture stays fixed throughout the zoom range. With the gs4 zoom, the more you zoom, the less light is reaching the sensor, which leads to IQ degradation..
Also, when the Phase 1 system crops, it does so from the middle of the frame, so you get absolutely no softness around the edges of the frame, which you will with a complex lens design such as the one on the gs4 zoom.
The good thing about an optical zoom is that you can achieve "bokeh" (blurred background) when you zoom in on a bigger object, with the 808 crop/zoom... you don't get that.
Example, this is at max zoom (3x) on the 808
With the gs4 zoom you might be able to blur the background. In this case.. its okay that it isn't, but in most cases you would want it to be. Also, note that its sharp from end to end..
[ This Message was edited by: cu015170 on 2013-06-13 21:14 ]
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Posted: 2013-06-13 22:13:40
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On 2013-06-12 22:31:28, cu015170 wrote:
Also, before buying the EOS, I would wait and see what Sony have in store with the Honami.
No thanks, Sony haven't had a decent camera in a phone in years.
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Posted: 2013-06-13 23:36:58
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If you want a phone with a great quality camera there are only 3 ways to go: Nokia, Samsung and Apple. Really down to what OS you want and how much of a priority the Camera is to you.
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Posted: 2013-06-14 00:04:05
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The problem with Sony is their image processing is crap. They provide their sensors to Samsung,Apple but they utilize the processing better. Apparently in future phones Sony is going to introduce their BIONZ processing which is better but we will have to wait and see. Nokia,Samsung and Apple yes have the best right now. HTC have never really made a decent camera still.
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Posted: 2013-06-14 00:39:00
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On 2013-06-13 23:36:58, etaab wrote:
No thanks, Sony haven't had a decent camera in a phone in years.
I think you will be pleasantly surprised .. the hardware alone in the Honami would put it way ahead of anything they've done so far, and even if they mess up the jpeg processing, they have a great hardware base to work from.. so it will get better and better with updates.
Remember that the sensor will be bigger than the one in the N8..
My only concern is the lens.. but.. we will see.
I expect the Honami to act like a mini RX100.
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Posted: 2013-06-14 06:46:18
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@cu015170: seems like Sammy is determined to outclass both EOS and Honami with
this I must admit though, APS-C is way beyond any camera phone sensors could hold against. but NX is known for bad JPEG engine so...
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Posted: 2013-06-14 07:03:28
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Razec, how can u compare that against Honami/EOS. That is a proper camera, and can't make calls.
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Posted: 2013-06-14 07:14:41
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IKR
just saying because Samsung is basically making my ideal hybrid, but still NEX is way hotter
please pardon me for the off topic anyway
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Posted: 2013-06-14 07:25:55
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We will see.. I think that it will be Homani vs. EOS for the next 15-20 months. Nokia have one big advantage in terms of marketing, and that is the megapixel count. Most people think that the more mpix you have the better the picture.. or at least that is what everyone has been told for the past 10+ years.. so having 41mpix written on the phone will work in their favor.
People still think that having 12Mpix in a phone is amazing..
And of course, we have the 808 which will stay along the top cameraphones in the world for a long time. I still think that it might be better than the eos in terms of IQ.. we will have to wait and see.
The Honami is unknown.. but I have a good feeling about that one.
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Posted: 2013-06-14 09:19:51
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So i believe Sony is to start using Carl Zeiss in their phones now too like they do in their normal cameras. Also with the return of Cyber-shit branding
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Posted: 2013-06-14 15:38:00
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