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OK, here are my 2cents

@etaab:
You're standing up for your girlfriend, and being a woman myself, I love that!
But it also means, you're emotionally involved and that usually doesn't do discussions any good, nor, in this case, does it help cupcake30.
This is the main reason, why my husband always refused to join Esato and the photo competition, even though he's the "phoneographer" in our family .

I agree with you in the case of the rainbow, excellent photo, but it had nothing to do with that month's theme. But people see a photo they like and vote for it, not always with the theme in mind.



@ All:

As this competition has been running for several years now, we're running out of "simple" themes, like "flowers" or "red", so we're getting more complex themes and they usually leave more room for different interpretations. Stricter rules could possibly help, but only to a certain point, different people have different opinions, no way to avoid that.
So, as cupcake30 said, we'll have to "agree tot disagree".

I agree with several other posters here, that, when there are doubts about the validity of an entry, the theme starter should have the last word, as he/she knows best, what he had in mind, when thinking about that particular theme.

Oh, and let's not forget, this competition should be "fun"

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Posted: 2014-01-28 05:23:29
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You know what they say -- "opinions are like A$$HOLES, everybody's got one".... When it comes down to it though, I think it should only be the opinion of the OP that matters in deciding if an entry is valid or not..... not a moderator, not the collective or even via vote.... It all ends where it started and the OP gets final say [period]
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Posted: 2014-01-28 12:11:08
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[low_whisper]
fight! fight! fight! fight!
[/low_whisper]
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Posted: 2014-01-28 12:40:59
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The Chinese smog has gotten into your system, Ricky.
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Posted: 2014-01-28 13:06:39
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Posted: 2014-01-28 17:55:37
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@ Marly - my emotional reasoning behind my opinions do not come from a sense of loyalty to cupcake, they're driven by wanting a fair competition for all which this competition has not been many many times in the past.

Ive seen the rules bent for some members and kept strict for others. Ive seen pictures win or at least get higher votes when they shouldn't have been allowed in at all. Ive also had a major issue with images being staged to win the contest, which is something ive always felt strongly should not be allowed. I always refer to the colours theme as an example, when someone wrote Esato in coloured candy sweets - fake, staged, no skill at all. How is that competition ?

I think ive come to the conclusion that this competition is all too amateurish and isn't very professionally held, policed or managed. The inconsistencies ive become aware of illustrate this to me. Ive entered less and less this past few months because ive felt this way. Ive won photo competitions on other media sources, such as Instagram and Flickr, but not once have any of my pictures come close on Esato. I suggest this is due to the way its held, as mentioned.

Ive always felt, like many others on here, that the theme maker should be able to decide what pictures qualify and which do not. However, this month I completely disagree with 9_Destiny as he has suggested examples of what qualifies and yet denied cupcake's even though it meets the requirements as she outlined herself - which is hypocracy at its finest, ergo one rule for one, one rule for another.

Ive removed my entry, theres little point in entering a competition which is meant to be for fun only but appears to have corrupt undertones deciding the direction is goes every month.



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Posted: 2014-01-28 20:26:16
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I completely disagree with you etaab. I’m not a hypocrite. Your girlfriends shot presented static landscape with no perspective to change. Instead thinking of picking another shot you both just offend on me removing your shots from the competition. That’s childish. I participate with this competition 2 years since January 2012. As a OP I had only 2 examples of pictures which I’ve decided to judge due to the mismatch with the month’s theme. I’m not a sadist who irrationally decide what’s right and what’s wrong. I’ve put arguments explaining why in my opinion picture was invalid and the difference between your girlfriend’s shot and those which I’ve put as examples.

Your judgment about me and this competition is highly biased and emotional. Case with Sylwester’s rainbow was up to you and cupcake as a hosts of “A lot of them” topic. You did nothing to qualify/remove his photo and now you are pissed of that I dare to do it. You said that this competition is too amateurish, isn't professionally held, policed or managed. So tell me where the hell you’ve been as a advisor of your girlfriend during “A lot of them” theme? You said something about hypocrisy? It’s not the first time of your complaining about this competition and picture of other contestants just because you're not pleased with results.

I’m sorry that I’ve hurt your and your girlfriend feelings. I had no idea that my statement about single shot will bring all this mess. Being OP is not an easy job. It sometimes requires to make tough decisions even those which can't please everybody.

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Posted: 2014-01-28 22:07:26
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Picture of flying bird.


Original

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Posted: 2014-01-28 22:11:08
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Etaab is definitely being childish. Yeah, running away from the issue won't help much either.
Great shot 9_Destiny!!!
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Posted: 2014-01-28 22:44:17
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I don't really care whether you agree with me or not. My opinions of this competition are gained through my observations whether they involve you or not. You're highly hypocritical as you have posted instructions which related to cupcakes picture, but now you back-peddle and claim the picture is not that. The landscape was static ? the lake was not frozen, it was well above freezing. But you're saying it simply was not moving at all ? Im not a physicist, but im sure if I was one I would not refer to water which is open to constant variables such as air pressure, evaporation, life intervention, kinetic energy within molecules or any other infinite affects, as static.

Just answer me one question please: was the lake frozen ? yes or no ?

Im sure a physicist would say theres more movement in her picture than any captured thus far. Do you understand the stupidity of how you draw us to discuss this based on your hypocritical remarks regarding what does or does not qualify ? The problem is, your argument against cupcakes picture is weaker than my argument for it by a considerable stretch.

Secondly, you and hihihans decided amongst you that cupcake's picture was not valid, therefore she removed it based on your decisions, that's called compliance. That's not childish. I removed mine for the reason ive already stated. If you actually researched my comments before making that comment you'd see I have not entered the competition much this past six or so months. If I have, ive entered pictures which were in no way intended to win as they were not my best efforts due to personal issues with time, work and social life. I just wanted to participate as cupcake joined this site to show some interests in what interests me. She has enjoyed it more than I have, which is why she has entered every month, whilst I have not.

You make too many simple assumptions about me. My argument with the rainbow image happened after the competition had closed. If, once again you took the time to research my comments you will have noticed I only got chance to complain in the following months theme chosen by Sylwester. Not only did he enter past the deadline for entries, but he also entered a picture which was not valid. I was away and did not know who had won. Not to mention it might have been my idea, but it was Cupcake's theme, she should have been the one to complain prior to the competition closing. This is certainly not the first time ive complained about this competition, again as you claim.

As for hurting my feelings, or cupcakes, you haven't. You just cannot seem to grasp that people have opinions based on events which have happened historically. You cannot tell them its just this month or last when its been going on for probably well over a year. Cupcake joined at a time when I was getting sick of the competition and was considering not bothering.

@ alenn - that's the typical childish response I'd expect from you. I remember how easy you are to follow the crowd a few months ago when you voted for my picture and then decided actually it wasn't valid and crap. You wanted to change your vote. Remember ? because I do. If you don't want to vote for my pictures, then I don't want your vote if your opinion is so easily swayed. " Running away ! " that's childish.

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Posted: 2014-01-28 22:49:40
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