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dark_knight_r3turns Posts: 186

Hello again. Still want to know if any of you knows of a wapsite that offers live video news coverage? This message was posted from a P800
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Posted: 2003-03-21 00:57:00
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nyk_2702 Posts: 96

Hello ppl.

Ive been reading this convo with gr8 interest about wat sum ppl hav been saying about the US n UK..

Firstly one thing that really bugged me..

Israel was created in 1948, the Europeans didnt want a large influx of jewish refugees from Germany, and so they sent them to Palestine..
It was the US who was able to persuade the UN to allow Jews to hav a Country.. This wasnt out of sympathy, it was becoz the US gov't back then knew that having a strong ally in the Mid-East would help the US spread its power over the world.
(If anybody wants a letter written by the US president at the time ill email it to u)

Secondly -

The US keeps talking about the WMD Iraq has..
Weapons Inspectors hav been in Iraq for many months now, and wat hav they found So far ?
Jack-Sh** is wat they hav found..
Wat about the North Koreans who have stated publicly that they would Nuke the US if the UN put sanctions against North Korea ?

The only country to ever use an atom bomb is the USA..
Nobody since then has used anything even near that scale..

Y doesnt the US dis-arm...
Rumsfeld replied wen asked this Q, 'We keep the weapons to protect ourselves, not to harm ppl'....
the US could hav hit japan wit Missiles, but it was that Atom Bomb which was dropped that started the Nulcear race...

Wat rite does the US hav to police the world ?
thats wat the UN is there for!

As for terrorism, the stuff Powell gave the UN, was laughed and made fun of by other countries...

U talk about Human Rights in Iraq,
Wat about China ? This country has the WORST human rights record ever seen, but Rumsfeld's reply was quote 'We cant stop them... U want us to wage war on half the world?' unquote

That was on a CNN interview a few months back...

As for Afghanistan...

The US bombed the Shit out of it, and since the the only thing it was done is... Keep forces in Kabul and the Afghan airport.. Not 1 $ has been given by the US to help re-build Afghanistan, proof of this is in the US budget which was published last month or the month before....


the US also claims that they hav 30 countries which support them.. Has any1 seen these countries.. 20 out of the 30 rely on US aid in terms of finance.. the other 10 r just dumb idiots who think that they r going to get a piece of the Iraqi wealth..

Bush has already stated that contracts in Iraq will be offered to Large US companies that will provide the nest service.. IE, only US companies will get contracts so as to raise the US economy...


If the US had actually helped the Arab-Israeli issue by creating a Viable Palestinian state, then leaders such as the evil Saddam would not hav support.. Bin laden would never have had such a large Fan-base...

But its the US's Idiotic support of Israel that is ausing its alienation in the EU and asia...

The US has vetoed more than 25 resolutions in the UN which would hav denounced ISrael's terrorism against the palestinians..

Just to finish this 'small' post here are the vetoes by the US..

after looking at these, tell me that its the Arabs or Muslims who hav caused all this terror and war...

1972-2002 Vetoes from the USA
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Year -----Resolution Vetoed by the USA

1972 Condemns Israel for killing hundreds of people in Syria and Lebanon in
air raids.
1973 Afirms the rights of the Palestinians and calls on Israel to withdraw
from the occupied territories.
1976 Condemns Israel for attacking Lebanese civilians.
1976 Condemns Israel for building settlements in the occupied territories.
1976 Calls for self determination for the Palestinians.
1976 Afirms the rights of the Palestinians.
1978 Urges the permanent members (USA, USSR, UK, France, China) to insure
United Nations decisions on the maintenance of international peace and
security.
1978 Criticises the living conditions of the Palestinians.
1978 Condemns the Israeli human rights record in occupied territories.
1978 Calls for developed countries to increase the quantity and quality of
development assistance to underdeveloped countries.
1979 Calls for an end to all military and nuclear collaboration with the
apartheid South Africa.
1979 Strengthens the arms embargo against South Africa.
1979 Offers assistance to all the oppressed people of South Africa and
their liberation movement.
1979 Concerns negotiations on disarmament and cessation of the nuclear arms
race.
1979 Calls for the return of all inhabitants expelled by Israel.
1979 Demands that Israel desist from human rights violations.
1979 Requests a report on the living conditions of Palestinians in occupied
Arab countries.
1979 Offers assistance to the Palestinian people.
1979 Discusses sovereignty over national resources in occupied Arab
territories.
1979 Calls for protection of developing counties' exports.
1979 Calls for alternative approaches within the United Nations system for
improving the enjoyment of human rights and fundamental freedoms.
1979 Opposes support for intervention in the internal or external affairs
of states.
1979 For a United Nations Conference on Women.
1979 To include Palestinian women in the United Nations Conference on
Women.
1979 Safeguards rights of developing countries in multinational trade
negotiations.
1980 Requests Israel to return displaced persons.
1980 Condemns Israeli policy regarding the living conditions of the
Palestinian people.
1980 Condemns Israeli human rights practices in occupied territories. 3
resolutions.
1980 Afirms the right of self determination for the Palestinians.
1980 Offers assistance to the oppressed people of South Africa and their
national liberation movement.
1980 Attempts to establish a New International Economic Order to promote
the growth of underdeveloped countries and international economic
co-operation.
1980 Endorses the Program of Action for Second Half of United Nations
Decade for Women.
1980 Declaration of non-use of nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states.
1980 Emphasises that the development of nations and individuals is a human
right.
1980 Calls for the cessation of all nuclear test explosions.
1980 Calls for the implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of
Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples.
1981 Promotes co-operative movements in developing countries.
1981 Affirms the right of every state to choose its economic and social
system in accord with the will of its people, without outside interference
in whatever form it takes.
1981 Condemns activities of foreign economic interests in colonial
territories.
1981 Calls for the cessation of all test explosions of nuclear weapons.
1981 Calls for action in support of measures to prevent nuclear war, curb
the arms race and promote disarmament.
1981 Urges negotiations on prohibition of chemical and biological weapons.
1981 Declares that education, work, health care, proper nourishment,
national development, etc are human rights.
1981 Condemns South Africa for attacks on neighbouring states, condemns
apartheid and attempts to strengthen sanctions. 7 resolutions.
1981 Condemns an attempted coup by South Africa on the Seychelles.
1981 Condemns Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, human rights
policies, and the bombing of Iraq. 18 resolutions.
1982 Condemns the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. 6 resolutions (1982 to
1983).
1982 Condemns the shooting of 11 Muslims at a shrine in Jerusalem by an
Israeli soldier.
1982 Calls on Israel to withdraw from the Golan Heights occupied in 1967.
1982 Condemns apartheid and calls for the cessation of economic aid to
South Africa. 4 resolutions.
1982 Calls for the setting up of a World Charter for the protection of the
ecology.
1982 Sets up a United Nations conference on succession of states in respect
to state property, archives and debts.
1982 Nuclear test bans and negotiations and nuclear free outer space. 3
resolutions.
1982 Supports a new world information and communications order.
1982 Prohibition of chemical and bacteriological weapons.
1982 Development of international law.
1982 Protects against products harmful to health and the environment .
1982 Declares that education, work, health care, proper nourishment,
national development are human rights.
1982 Protects against products harmful to health and the environment.
1982 Development of the energy resources of developing countries.
1983 Resolutions about apartheid, nuclear arms, economics, and
international law. 15 resolutions.
1984 Condemns support of South Africa in its Namibian and other policies.
1984 International action to eliminate apartheid.
1984 Condemns Israel for occupying and attacking southern Lebanon.
1984 Resolutions about apartheid, nuclear arms, economics, and
international law. 18 resolutions.
1985 Condemns Israel for occupying and attacking southern Lebanon.
1985 Condemns Israel for using excessive force in the occupied territories.
1985 Resolutions about cooperation, human rights, trade and development. 3
resolutions.
1985 Measures to be taken against Nazi, Fascist and neo-Fascist activities
.
1986 Calls on all governments (including the USA) to observe international
law.
1986 Imposes economic and military sanctions against South Africa.
1986 Condemns Israel for its actions against Lebanese civilians.
1986 Calls on Israel to respect Muslim holy places.
1986 Condemns Israel for sky-jacking a Libyan airliner.
1986 Resolutions about cooperation, security, human rights, trade, media
bias, the environment and development.
8 resolutions.
1987 Calls on Israel to abide by the Geneva Conventions in its treatment of
the Palestinians.
1987 Calls on Israel to stop deporting Palestinians.
1987 Condemns Israel for its actions in Lebanon. 2 resolutions.
1987 Calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon.
1987 Cooperation between the United Nations and the League of Arab States.
1987 Calls for compliance in the International Court of Justice concerning
military and paramilitary activities against Nicaragua and a call to end
the trade embargo against Nicaragua. 2 resolutions.
1987 Measures to prevent international terrorism, study the underlying
political and economic causes of terrorism, convene a conference to define
terrorism and to differentiate it from the struggle of people from national
liberation.
1987 Resolutions concerning journalism, international debt and trade. 3
resolutions.
1987 Opposition to the build up of weapons in space.
1987 Opposition to the development of new weapons of mass destruction.
1987 Opposition to nuclear testing. 2 resolutions.
1987 Proposal to set up South Atlantic "Zone of Peace".
1988 Condemns Israeli practices against Palestinians in the occupied
territories. 5 resolutions (1988 and 1989).
1989 Condemns USA invasion of Panama.
1989 Condemns USA troops for ransacking the residence of the Nicaraguan
ambassador in Panama.
1989 Condemns USA support for the Contra army in Nicaragua.
1989 Condemns illegal USA embargo of Nicaragua.
1989 Opposing the acquisition of territory by force.
1989 Calling for a resolution to the Arab-Israeli conflict based on earlier
UN resoltions.
1990 To send three UN Security Council observers to the occupied
territories.
1995 Afirms that land in East Jerusalem annexed by Israel is occupied
territory.
1997 Calls on Israel to cease building settlements in East Jerusalem and
other occupied territories. 2 resolutions.
1999 Calls on the USA to end its trade embargo on Cuba. 8 resolutions (1992
to 1999).
2001 To send unarmed monitors to the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
2001 To set up the International Criminal Court.
2002 To renew the peace keeping mission in Bosnia.



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Posted: 2003-03-22 21:28:00
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jbendaou Posts: 458

NYK,
I am sorry that you wasted all these valuable information...You surely have put a lot of hours of work to bring all these information, but you have to know that some people here are close minded, and will not change their minds even with all the data you just posted.
If the US has helped the Arabs in the middle East maybe "we" would have been all the way with the US...maybe the arabs would have been the best allies the US could ever dream of.
I would greatlly appreciate if you can send me the later from the US president to the UN...

Again NYK, very good job.
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Posted: 2003-03-22 22:13:00
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nyk_2702 Posts: 96

Everything ive written is true...

Even the MOST Narrow-minded War mongerer can not even THINK about blaming arabs for the current hatred towards the Arabs...

Has anyone had ANY evidence that it was in fact Osama Bin Ladne that master-minded the 9/11 attacks ??

the US gov't didnt show a TINY bit of info to ne1 !!

The war against oil-rich Afghanistan is as fake as the Oil war against Iraq!!!
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Posted: 2003-03-22 22:32:00
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jbendaou Posts: 458

Guys i URGE you to ask NYK to send you the letter he was talking about in his first post...you would be amazed and disgusted by what is going on in this world...

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The T68i God ,and P800 wanna be...Oh by the way i have a P800

[ This Message was edited by: jbendaou on 2003-03-22 21:43 ]
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Posted: 2003-03-22 22:38:00
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nyk_2702 Posts: 96

Id post it here but I do not wish to Offend any Jewish/Israeli people..

Does anybody object to me showing the letter ?

It talks about the US gov't wishing to get rid of the Jewish presence in the USA...
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Posted: 2003-03-22 22:43:00
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jbendaou Posts: 458

I dont mind you posting it here, but you are right, maybe you should wait for others to reply. we dont want anyone offended...
If you dont mind, can you provide us with "where" you found this text.
thanks again
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Posted: 2003-03-22 22:45:00
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ElGato Posts: 328

If vote post it!
And if you don't, I would like it if you would send it to me as well..

Another fact: Apparently CNN has been stationed in Iraq since september last year, waiting for the war to begin.
I saw an interview with a guy working for CNN and he said it loud and clear.. they have been there since september waiting for the war.

Another thing, this shouldnt be called a "war".
War is when two parts fight.
This is a "war" where there's only one part fighting.

And why doesn't anyone realise that people living in Bagdad are normal civilians, not soliders!
What casualties can come out of bombing Bagdad except civilian?
Saddam can be taken out with one shot, but US is to chicken to send in ground troops..
Bush will cause much more civilian death than Saddam has done.. when do we get to bomb Washington?

(with US I do not mean the people, of course I'm talking about the Bush administration)

Peace Love and no Bush
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Posted: 2003-03-22 23:01:00
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mugatoo Posts: 3

guys or gals,
sorry for the intrusion and changing of topic. I was wondering if someone can help me out. I just recently got a T300, and I was wondering how to utilize the picture sending function of the phone. The target phone is abroad though, but has the exact same phone. Please advise on the proper procedure to use this function. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
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Posted: 2003-03-22 23:08:00
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nyk_2702 Posts: 96

I got it forwarded to me from my uncle about 1 yr ago..

I havent been able to find out its exact source of creation, but im assuming it to b true.

I have also found it on many web-sites, here is one of them with the writing and some more on..

http://your_stinking_id.tripod.com/rb702.html


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Posted: 2003-03-22 23:13:00
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