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accdg. to manila bulletin, Sun Cellular is now adopting EDGE
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Posted: 2004-03-01 08:53:05
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as others have said, using post paid and prepaid have their own disadvantages and advantages. if you have the money to burn and the control to use it, might as well go for postpaid because the agony of not having a load and hindi makabili (dahil no money yet, budget constraints, malayo pa sweldo, etc.) and hindi maka gprs,wap or hindi makatext ...well you know the "miserable" feeling ( what is the use of having all those high end colored phones kung wala namang load db!!!)
advantages of post paid:
1. lower cost acquisition of phone and you could sell it at prevailing market rates be it near brand new or 2nd hand(talagang used). for example, bought nokia 3100 last november at 4k under plan 1335(addict mobile retention program) and sold it at 8k last month. tubo ka pa 100% after pinagsawaan mo yung unit. i think normally that's the norm here under "mobile phones for sale" forum be it globe, smart and especially the smart amazing phone.
2. obviously you can make a call anytime as long as it is within your credit limit. of course, make your credit limit at minimum so that you could pay it easily and always within control. i think for smart/addict the minimum credit limit is php 2,000.00 now. before it is around php 2,500.00. i dont know with globe. with sun i think your credit limit is your monthly plan x 3 per month.
3. for addict mobile billing, i dont have problems with it. everything is in there: calls made, free texts consumed, free minutes, payments.
my only gripes is sometimes yung last 2-3 days na consumption before cut off date ay hindi nasasama sa present billing kaya nasasama sa next although it only happened to me once after being a smart then addict subscriber for more than a year already.
disadvantage of post paid:
1. true true true. if you dont have the budget for it, then sasakit ulo mo dahil sa utang. as a reminder, always start with the minimum plan then gradually upgrade later if pocket permits. " spend within your means" .
For Sun:
1. reading from the above, mukhang nakakalito pa rin pala ang billing ng Sun. Free texts vs. discounts, consumable kuno, etc.
FOR OTHER SUN SUBSCRIBERS OUT THERE, PLEASE ENLIGHTEN US MORE BEFORE MAKING THE PLUNGE.
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Posted: 2004-03-01 14:33:17
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sun billing, have a problem with "DISCOUNT".
tama naman actually yung principle nila.
kaso, yung lumabas sa discounts ko, meron silang "nakalimutan" isama na certain discount... KAINIS!!!
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Posted: 2004-03-02 06:32:06
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pareng abaya, sorry for a generalization of my post. it is meant for anyone who have not used other network's services.
i have used both globe and smart, as postpaid. during my stint with globe, billing was terrible and charges were not clear, on top of FCA, VAT, CERA, etc. and let me clarify that, it was then, i don't know now. when smart launched their gsm, i was one of the first consumable subscribers. never had a problem with billing until now. i still have an old consumable plan. my wife has addict mobile plan, and seems to me to be in order too.
no comment on sun. never subscribed with them personally, yet.
it will be extremely beneficial if adv99576 indeed will be able to post statements online. i am even offering mine, which includes almost all services, except download of ringtones, games
ynohtna, made a good point. in addition, on smart network, it will be more difficult to lose control. how is that? because they have control. for example,
let's say your credit limit is P3,000, when you
reach 50% of your credit limit, you will be bombarded with SMS informing you of such. when you
exceed you credit limit, you're barred of outgoing SMS and Voice.
when you are still within you credit limit, and you have a past due, the past due cannot exceed by more than two billing periods, otherwise you'll be barred of outgoing SMS and Voice.
so, we have here two barriers, one is the credit limit, and the other is payment delinquency.
personally, i think this is good.
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Posted: 2004-03-02 08:24:29
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ayon sa Sun's latest advertisement: ".... with FREE CALL VALUE, all plans are totally consumable." --- very illogical to me... thats how they define consumable.... haayy buhay...
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Posted: 2004-03-02 13:18:05
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@ arnoldc
if you can enroll your bills online presentment for all your bills, you can try doing so, para i-edit mo na lang yung content that you want to share to us. if you already have a bill that you want to be posted in my website, send it to me in word document format, send it at
carlos_barredo2@yahoo.co.uk
wag dun sa address ko sa website (yung
rccbarredo@yahoo...., puno na kasi yun)
my bill in addict mobile is almost here. wait for it in my website soon... =)
(if it doesn't show immediately, just give me some time kasi we're busy at school doing thesis right now. ciao)
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Posted: 2004-03-02 16:32:33
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my rant against smart/addict:
no dang
units!
i inquired last year arnd oct for a 2nd line for my wife. she wants a t610. they told me to wait. nov/ dec came still nothing. Now i lost my artic blue unit n they offered me a 24 month retention plan. written in their promo plans are phones avail to subscribers. a t310, a z600, a p800, the nokias n some siemens, and opcors their useless SAP (my opinion).
no t610s, so we decided on a z600. well watdouknow aftr going to lengths of acquiring the cash out money needed, NO STOCK PO SIR IM SORRY
all over their smart clueless centers! worst the 511- landlines they gve out they dont even bother 2 answer! Watacustomerservice! at least answer ur damn phones and inform us u hve no stock of ANY
fones! not let ur clients hop all over the metro looking if u hve any. Hindi daw nag dedeliver SE sa warehaus nila, eh baket Globe n Sun meron stocks! Is smart deliberately not selling
kse they want all their useless SAPs sold? kht bigyan ako ng SAP ng Smart i wont even bother opening it n sell it to you guys agad agad. That is if u want their junk. gimme a t39 anytime !
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Posted: 2004-03-02 17:24:36
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@adv99576, i'm enrolled since day 1 of the service. what i'd like to see online is the bill itself of different providers, say scanned and posted on the site.
cheers!
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Posted: 2004-03-03 09:30:01
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GLOBE: Masasabi ko lang, BIGGEST MISTAKE talaga ang magpalit ng provider from SMART to GLOBE(!@#$!@#QAF). Tama bang ipagpalit ang SMART sa Autoload Advantage, nagpalit ako kasi akala ko kikita ako... Grabe, ang sistema nila palpak!!!! daming nag-reklamong downlines ko! ang resulta di ako kumita! huhuhuhu :'(... tapos ang call center ng Globe at ng BDO, ginagawa ka lang pingpong ball, NAGPAPASAHAN ng sisi, nag-join pa sila kung hindi sila properly coordinated.
Maski yung tech person nila ang bagal mag-imbistiga ng mga problema, mas nauna ko pang nalaman ang reason kung bakit palpak, 1 to 2 days lang alam ko na, sila 1 to 2 months!!!! grrrrrrr!!!!!!!!
Sa signal naman, grabe! BAD TRIP... kailangan ko pang lumabas ng bahay para makakuha ng signal
Sabi ko pa naman magiging loyal ako sa SMART *sigh*, imagine from analog days SMART na ako! Kaya SMART hintayin nyo ako, babalik ako at back to post paid, kasi mura at walang daya compared to GLOBE(!@#$!@#!@#)
Kaya maswerte talaga ang asawa ko, never syang lumipat.
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Posted: 2004-03-18 13:13:40
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months after mag post ako tungkol sa ma anumalyang paraan ng pagbi bill ng sun cellular sa kanilang subscribers, (yeah, about that consumable thing, discounts etc.), they advertised in some magazines and papers their "new" way of billing, sinabi kong new way, kase naiba talaga ang pag bill nila ngayon, now, its very close to the real context of consumable, but far off "totally consumable" as they advertise on tv.
this month, it is very notable that they now deduct the whole free text allocation from the usage charges instead of computing for a discount (but still they call it discount). they now make all the plans consumable for all types of voice call, in contrary to previous billing statements wherein they also computed for discounts for voice calls. btw, i repeat that discount is very different from consumable.
now i;m very happy that sun changed their anomalous way of billing. needless to file a lawsuit.. wahaha!! kidding!
if u didn't get what i mean, you may pm me and i'll send you scanned copies of my biling statements, with explanations of their notable differences.
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Posted: 2004-03-19 14:51:34
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