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I tried to check out
Flying Finnīs post historry and foun out that almost every post he is posting in esato forums is in the discussion betwen nokia and
So my quetion to Flying Finn is: Is this your hobby or do you try to convince us to buy Nokia phones.
If so....
forgett it!!!!
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[ This Message was edited by: speedooh on 2003-12-11 02:53 ]
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Posted: 2003-12-11 03:51:37
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On 2003-12-11 03:51:37, speedooh wrote:
I tried to check out
Flying Finnīs post historry and foun out that almost every post he is posting in esato forums is in the discussion betwen nokia and
So my quetion to Flying Finn is: Is this your hobby or do you try to convince us to buy Nokia phones.
If so....
forgett it!!!!
As far as I can see most of his posts correct some false information someone else has said. And it usually concerns Nokia phones. And when he corrects something he also very often get flamed...
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Posted: 2003-12-11 07:19:09
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Quote:i'm curious as to exactly which nokia you thought was better than a P800.
Well I think the 3650 is better than the P800. It can do more than it. There is more, and better symbian software for it, and it has a better OS.
The touch screen on the P800 is great, but feature wise- it aint got nothing the 3650 hasnt.
Before you comment mmsgirl, have you owned both? No. So you actually cant comment.
Come back when you've held a Nokia and found what a great piece of technology it is.
@701- go kill yourself so we dont have to waste time reading your posts. You worthless SE fan.
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Posted: 2003-12-11 08:58:45
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On 2003-12-11 03:51:37, speedooh wrote:
I tried to check out
Flying Finnīs post historry and foun out that almost every post he is posting in esato forums is in the discussion betwen nokia and
So my quetion to Flying Finn is: Is this your hobby or do you try to convince us to buy Nokia phones.
If so....
forgett it!!!!
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Earlier known as T610 Owner.
[ This Message was edited by: speedooh on 2003-12-11 02:53 ]
You should have also noticed the dozens of "I'm not trying to make anyone buy a Nokia, just correcting this and that" type of comments by me.
Quote:@ Flying Finn: it's true nokia may have been first with those things, but one problem i have found with them is that once nokia introduces something they tend not to advance it for a long time afterwards. examples being the prehistoric UI, implementation, overall appearance/design, screens, polys, 3G features. i will admit, however, lately there have been some exceptions. wrt games, covers and radios, nobody in all honesty needs those things so IMO they can't really be claimed as genuine breakthroughs (although they are good marketing tools).
The newer Series 40 phones (3100, 3200, 5140, 6220, 6230, 6650, 6810, 6820, 7200, 7250i, 7600) have a grid view menu like SE phones if that's what you mean. Nothing historic about their UI, if only you had tried them before calling them that. 5140, 6230, 6820 and 7200 also have the newer Series 40 2.0 UI version which adds a 3rd softkey to the middle to compensate the small screen (the fonts are a little smaller too). 3G Series 40 phones - 6650 and 7600 so far - come with a 128 x 160 screen (65K colours in the 7600).
The Series 60 UI is INARGUABLY one of the best out there.
Overall appearance/design...don't you think that's a matter of opinion? "that nokia is ugly" isn't a very valid argument.
The Series 60 phones have always been said to have good screens. The older Series 40 phones didn't have that good screens but the new UI version (plus new components) and increasing the number of colours up to 65K has helped.
Games and covers are one of the most important evolutions in mobile phone history. Thanks to Nokia.
"Nobody in all honesty blah blah blah.." Come on. You have to put some effor to that.
[ This Message was edited by: Flying Finn on 2003-12-11 10:17 ]
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Posted: 2003-12-11 10:55:03
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On 2003-12-11 08:58:45, hurny wrote:
Well I think the 3650 is better than the P800. It can do more than it. There is more, and better symbian software for it, and it has a better OS.
That amazes me... 3650 better than P800?!?!?
I admit that series 60 phones (the pretty normal ones, not N-Gage or any other taco phone) are good and i would probably buy one if
didn't exist. But 3650 BETTER THAN P800...
It has better OS?!?!? Symbian 6.1 is better than Symbian 7.0?
Must prove that, i'm not saying that 7.0 is better than 6.1 but logic tells that it is.
And if it's so, how come the new series 90 work over Symbian 7.0?
Just because of touchscreen support?
Hurny you are suffering of mental diarreia. Every thing that comes out from your head is pure CRAP!
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Posted: 2003-12-11 11:35:03
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wow I had a big laugh here
3650 better than p800, for your info yes i really don't own a 3650 but I have a 7650, and i have tried 3650 because my friend has it, so i think i can comment on your post,
OS:I think you can't say that the os is better, true,series 60 is a brillant os but you can't compare it to alot more complex 7.0, and can you please tell what can you do with 6.1 that you can't in 7.0, because I was looking and exploring my nokia 7650 and i can't find a single thing but I don't have a 3650 so you can correct me here. I think this is just like saying the microsoft smartphone edition is better than microsoft pocket pc 2003, they are not comparable, each one is excellent for it's task but you can't compare them! This is also like comparing 90 to 60, nokia had to use 90 for a device such like 7700 and it the same way se can't put a 6.1 into a p800, it's not powerful enough, so they have a 7.0 and in my opinion it's one of the best operating systems out there, just like 60 but hey each in it's own segment, and again it's like saying that spv has a better os than xda II
SCREEN: It's true that p800 has a blueish haze BUT it corrects it comparing to 3650's screen in more pixels (66560 pixels comparing to 36606 pixels) Both have great screens but it's a fact that p800 has a touchscreen and a bigger resolution so in my opinion the winner is obvious here....
DESIGN: A personal taste so I won't type much here, but I have to say that to me 3650 is just ugly and the ergonomics of the keypad is just crap, yes the p800 doesn't hgave a quality keypad but hey at least the keys aren't in a circle..... oh and the mmc placement is one of the worse in history
APPS: It's a fact that 60 has more apps and alot of apps are the same but you have to agree that 7.0 apps are alot more complex bigger and more user friendly because of the touchscreen, if you ask there's no doubt in terms of media apps (games, players etc.) that the winner is 3650 but you obviosly aren't a businees users because there are better apps for p800 in terms of complexity and features of apps! and for the end i must say that apps designed for p800 are alot better than 60 ones, in games (i can't remember any but i know that I've played alot more 3d games then you will ever see on a nokia series 60), media(oggplay or unreal 2), internet (opera), other apps
FEATURES: They both have simmilar features but as i can remember (correct me if i'm wrong) 3650 has only a 3+1 gprs, while p800 doesn't have t9 and it has a worse camera, but in my opinion you can type faster than t9 in the virtual keyboard or in handwriting recognition, so i think that it's obvious that p800 has more features (better processor, more memory, better all together)
PACKAGE: Well p800 has so many things in it's box that you will probably never see with nokia (usb docking station, case, extra syluses, msduo card with adapter, carrying belt etc.)
MY OPINION: First of YOU CANNOT COMPARE THE TWO! the price is a execellent indicator of this, but to put it short: show me a person that would take a 3650 and he wouldn't take a p800 if both of them were free (and don't say that you would take it
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I think that the only thing that bothers you with the p800 is the sign sony ericsson, so i don't think it's correct that you have a signature like that, you are just the same only vica versa.....
BTW: you said that mmc cards are better, yes for it's price, but no in technology, try putting a 128 mb movie on your mmc then on your ms duo adn you will see the clear difference in speed.....
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Posted: 2003-12-11 13:57:47
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I don't stand behind the comment that 3650 is better than P800 but the 3650 definately has faster GPRS than 3 +1.
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Posted: 2003-12-11 15:04:16
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@flying finn: can you please show me a link ehre it says it has 4+1 or better, i'm not 100% about 3+1 but i thought it had the same gprs as the one in 6600 therefore 3+1 timeslots, and i did a quick google search and i found some pages that also said it has a 3+1 gprs......
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Posted: 2003-12-11 16:19:59
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I can possibly help there.
The
Nokia 3650 Phone Features page says this about data speeds...
Data Transfer
o Up to 43.2 kilobits per second in high-speed circuit switched data networks
o Up to 40.2 kilobits per second in GPRS networks
and according to the GPRS class tables on
GSM World (an invaluable resource btw) that makes it 4+1
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Posted: 2003-12-11 16:31:38
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Good on you mmsman- you actually had a lot of good stuff to say. I will credit you with most of what you said.
Except, I think the 3650 is head and shoulder above the 7650. The simple fact that it has a MMC is proof enough. I would suggest owning a 3650 for a while to see what it can really do.
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Both have great screens but it's a fact that p800 has a touchscreen and a bigger resolution so in my opinion the winner is obvious here....I already mentioned the touch screen of the P800. By the way- 'larger resolution' is worse.
Quote:DESIGN: A personal taste so I won't type much here, but I have to say that to me 3650 is just ugly and the ergonomics of the keypad is just crap
Fine, but as Finn said- looks isnt a valid argument. I love both the 3650 and the P800 designs.
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APPS: It's a fact that 60 has more apps and alot of apps are the same but you have to agree that 7.0 apps are alot more complex bigger and more user friendly
Complex isnt good. I find the Series 60 interface to be top notch. The P800 UI is great too, but I prefer a less PDA feeling UI.
To me, more apps is the key. I notice that CameraFX has just come out for my P800. My 3650 has had it for years. AND as you say, the camera is better.
As for finding nothing that the P800 doesnt have, how about video recorder and Real-one?
Quote: if you ask there's no doubt in terms of media apps (games, players etc.) that the winner is 3650
I agree
Quote: but you obviosly aren't a businees users because there are better apps for p800 in terms of complexity and features of apps! I dont really think there is any P800 apps that are better or more complex. There is almost always the Series 60 app before the P800 app.
Quote:i can't remember any but i know that I've played alot more 3d games then you will ever see on a nokia series 60
My 3650 has more 3D games. I must admit the larger screen on the P800 is a big plus- as I've already said. Yet, the 3650 screen aint small.
Quote:I think that the only thing that bothers you with the p800 is the sign sony ericsson, so i don't think it's correct that you have a signature like that, you are just the same only vica versa.....
You're right- it is a retaliation to the SE lovers. Its not an anti SE signature, just an anti SE user signature.
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Posted: 2003-12-11 17:39:59
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