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Dunno, if UK banks are late, but here in the Netherlands, all major banks have an app for WP.
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Posted: 2014-01-28 23:10:07
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I really like Nokia OS/Symbian but today it's just outdated and look really lagged...
It's simply unusable as primary phone.
Our needs have changed and grown over the years...
Oh,and i still can't see any phone being better than my old DSC-TX30.
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Posted: 2014-01-28 23:11:56
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On 2014-01-28 23:10:07, Marly wrote:
Dunno, if UK banks are late, but here in the Netherlands, all major banks have an app for WP.
Not my banks they don't
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Posted: 2014-01-28 23:49:38
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WP has the WellsFargo app here in the USA... good enough for me... and when using the 808, the mobile site looks exacly like the app.... so whats really the difference when you just place the link on you homescreen..... the answer is NONE - there is no difference IMO.
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Posted: 2014-01-28 23:54:55
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^ Exactly.
There have never been any banking apps for Meamo5 and Meego, so when I used my N900 and N9, I've always used the mobile, or even (with the N900) the full site, no problems at all
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Posted: 2014-01-29 00:00:26
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On 2014-01-28 23:54:55, mlife wrote:
WP has the WellsFargo app here in the USA... good enough for me... and when using the 808, the mobile site looks exacly like the app.... so whats really the difference when you just place the link on you homescreen..... the answer is NONE - there is no difference IMO.
They do ? Nice.. I guess its still a bit nicer than going to the website. I do all the time, but I use opera mobile instead of the built in browser .. it opens the full desktop version of the website.
On 2014-01-28 11:55:40, mlife wrote:
VEGAS... Last week of February???
I wish man.. I probably won't get out there until EDC .. but I will be in Florida at the end of March
On 2014-01-28 12:04:35, Away wrote:
Are you hearing yourself? I genuinely think you've lost it...
'Small sensors'... It's not a DSLR, all phones have small sensors... If the guy wants to shoot good quality photos, he'll get a proper camera...
At least he doesn't have to live with an extinct, dark age OS...
You should read my post again and try to understand better what I was trying to say.
For starters my opinion is NOT a universal law or anything of that sort, its only my opinion..
Its all a matter of perspective and personal taste. For 99.9% of the people out there who in fact care about image quality on their phones an iPhone 5 or a GS4 is simply amazing because they don't know any better. As soon as you introduce them to something substantially better than those two phones, which is what the 808 is, then they will have a much better perspective on the matter.
I am leaving that small fraction for 808 owners who indeed maximize the potential of what it has to offer in terms of imaging. I believe that all of the 808 owners who post here do so quite often.
The other group are the people that either don't understand what IQ means and what it consists of, or the simply don't care about tiny little pixels, dynamic range, etc. For those folks.. well.. they might think that the iPhone 4 is a phenomenal camera and they don't need more than that.
Catch my drift ? People only know what they know.. until they discover something new.
For me personally, the 808 is a true stand alone camera replacement, and besides the 1020.. nothing else even comes close. So my perspective on the matter is rather squed from the general expectations on the subject, but that doesn't make it wrong.
The sensor size is extremely important. Yes, they are all relatively small compared to stand alone cameras that have one, and one purpose only, but the one in the 808 is significantly bigger than any (expect the 1020) other smartphone out there. It will be very hard for me to use a smartphone with a much smaller sensor.. unless there is a huge leap in sensor technology, size will continue to be one of the most important factors in their performance.
I hope that now you have a better understanding of my views on this.
I am not saying that the gs4 and z1 are bad, they are simply.. sub par based on my requirements, which are based on extensive experience with a phone which has much better photographic capabilities.
On 2014-01-28 10:26:00, Bonovox wrote:
GALAXY S4 is a quality camera phone
See, this is where I think that you are going in circles.. the difference between the GS4 and the Z1 is marginal at best. To my eyes, they are both messy and I won't be able to stand the IQ for long.
On 2014-01-28 10:26:00, Bonovox wrote: So your even suggesting that to only have quality we have to have only Symbian which is dead or Windows Phone which is still not progressing enough as an OS anymore?? That all Androids are crap or useless for quality? ? I
Not, not at all.. but if you want the best quality, that would be the case. So its a matter of average quality vs. top quality and you seem to choose the former. I know that there is more to a phone than just the camera, but I am strictly addressing the camera aspect here.
As far as android.. Google can keep that VM/Java based malware of an OS for themselves
On 2014-01-28 23:11:56, Luca-S wrote:
I really like Nokia OS/Symbian but today it's just outdated and look really lagged...
It's simply unusable as primary phone.
Our needs have changed and grown over the years...
Oh,and i still can't see any phone being better than my old DSC-TX30.
Just out of curiosity, what do you do on your phone that would make Symbian unusable ?
Also.. sorry to say, but based on the samples here:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-cyber-shot-dsc-tx30/5
The DSC-TX30 overall has inferior IQ and a much narrower lens compared to the Symbian flagship discussed here.
[ This Message was edited by: cu015170 on 2014-01-29 07:06 ]
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Posted: 2014-01-29 07:22:50
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On 2014-01-29 07:22:50, cu015170 wrote:
As far as android.. Google can keep that VM/Java based malware of an OS for themselves
You know for someone that recently accused android fans of lacking maturity you prove to be exactly the same with this kind of statements. Do you have anything at all that can substantiate what you just said?
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Posted: 2014-01-29 08:32:52
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No wonder why the first (and some of the second) pages in the esato photo gallery highest ranked photos are those taken on a 808 !
Btw, I have my two banks apps in WP (halifax and barclays). No issues here.
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Posted: 2014-01-29 08:42:51
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On 2014-01-29 08:32:52, aussieland1 wrote:
On 2014-01-29 07:22:50, cu015170 wrote:
As far as android.. Google can keep that VM/Java based malware of an OS for themselves
You know for someone that recently accused android fans of lacking maturity you prove to be exactly the same with this kind of statements. Do you have anything at all that can substantiate what you just said?
Which part ? Android does run a virtual machine (Dalvik), which allows a lot of the applications to run in a "sandbox", or in other words.. not native code. For me personally, that is not optimal and the OS is not "clean" enough.. sorry for being picky.
The second part:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware
"gather sensitive information, or gain access to private computer systems"
I use it in a sense that it does the same to your personal information, which then allows google to make money off of you by selling that indexed data to advertisers. Its a "human behavior malware" ...
One small example:
http://techcrunch.com/2014/01[....]roid-users-texts-well-hold-on/
Android is nothing more than a advertising distributing platform, with data mining capabilities, and I stay away from it.
Also, the fact that it needs VM to run its applications is really annoying to me..
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Posted: 2014-01-29 09:47:11
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I don't get why Android/iOS users have even bothered to argue here
Symbian is dead and buried even by Nokia, the only reason people here put themselves through the pain of using it is due to the 808PV having the best Camera.
On the other hand there's WP, not taken seriously by developers or even OEMs, Nokia are the only ones who really bother and guess what? They are owned by the OS vendor
. Same situation as WP, people using it mainly for the good Camera HW bundled with WP handsets. People having to use Mobi sites to do banking on a 2013 smartphone kind of says it all really. I stopped using mobi sites when I left Symbian.
There really is no point in arguing, Symbian/WP users will cling hard on the Camera straw much like arguing with a BB user will have them clinging hard on the whole Security straw, they can't argue on any other grounds as Android and iOS pretty much destroy them in everything else, therefor pointless to even try engaging in a proper debate.
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Posted: 2014-01-29 10:14:54
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