News Forum Phone database

> New Topic
> Topic Locked
Esato Forum Index > General discussions > Rumours > The All New Sony Ericsson Portfolio for 2008 Bookmark topic



Yes, recent SALES really show how the market accepts holding back...

Also, is the beibei stylus going to point out like that? People will get hurt on that thing, it is a lawsuit waiting to happen in the US and A >.<
--
Posted: 2008-05-27 19:19:56
Edit : Quote


my question is WHY?

if they build it, the users will come.

plain as day, look everyone went to the FUTURISTIC iPhone that didnt even have 3G, theres a market its not for SE to say hey they dont want it. the fact that they can manufacture the headsets with very little in the realm of dev costs ... such as ford and audi using the same platform for many of the cars in their line up to save money, because when you standardize production you can cut costs instead of developing individual platforms independently.

all im saying is that, theres no longer a need for japan to lead, at least make the unit AVAILABLE as its already being produced, but for global frequencies, its easier than making a completely separate unit. the production is already there. theres really no excuse ...

it is a slap to the face in the regard that they act like what they give us is the cats meow, and cleary show IN ENGLSIH no less that they produce better phones in a different region. It amazes me how those phones they make over in nippon have english menu selection.

no, your right it isnt a slap so much as a them defecating on my ability to type ".co.jp" instead of ".com"
--
Posted: 2008-05-27 20:33:19
Edit : Quote




Moogoo hit the nail right on the head there. Thats precisely what I meant when I said to Makbil that Sony and Ericsson (and therefore SE) arent stupid. Theyre indeed capable of the specs you want, Japanese handsets are proof of this. But the means to do better things will always be there. These are not technological but geographical and economic restrictions. It costs alot of money to make such devices, Japan is willing to be very demanding when it comes to this sort of thing, just to be several years ahead of the rest of the world in terms of technology. And as a result, indeed they are. Other markets arent as technologically advanced yet due to lack of necessity, people dont expect that level of technology, so it isnt supplied. Therefore providing it would not be sustainable.

Dont think this is just SE. Im waiting for Sony products I want to become available outside of Japan. This is the case across the board when it comes to electronics. The same is the case with many manufacturers. May I kindly suggest though, if you so crave numbers on a list, please either go to Japan (lol jk!) or look to a different manufacturer for solutions which better suit your needs (eg HTC, is Taiwanese, I dont think they are bound to such restrictions, but I dont know, so dont hold me to that).
--
Posted: 2008-05-27 21:38:58
Edit : Quote



I hope you are right, we'll just have to wait and see.
If I didn't have a P990, I too might have been interested in P1, P5 etc. but there just isn't that much difference to justify the extra expense.
I guess we are all waiting for that device that will justify spending the upgrade money on.
--
Posted: 2008-05-27 21:43:26
Edit : Quote




Ahem, ahem, do I misread something here, my dear Mizzle, when I quote:

'G900 review coming fairly soon. I have not yet received my review unit, although it can’t take long now.'

(Kay fine, you could say that G900 is released now anyway, but that was never my point. Doesnt really matter, I was only proving a point about how there are people who are involved in this sort of thing in a way that theyre always up to date with whats just come out and the latest handsets).

Talking about latest handsets, how about that P1 and Paris comparisson

Look forward to the G900 review too m8, looks to be an excellent performer IMO

[ This Message was edited by: Tigershark42 on 2008-05-27 20:48 ]
--
Posted: 2008-05-27 21:46:50
Edit : Quote


I posted that in a comment at the blog only 1½ hours ago... Besides, that's not exactly what you'd call an acceptance unit, personally I'd call it a production unit.
--
Posted: 2008-05-27 21:59:57
Edit : Quote



Actually there is a paradox there. Most of the cost of a device is made up by R&D. If you already have the device marketed in Japan, than you could easily have similar devices - minus the cost of R&D - available for the rest of the world. Since only minor changes will be necessary (keyboard etc.) the cost would even be less than developing another device specifically for that region.
--
Posted: 2008-05-27 22:00:36
Edit : Quote


The cost of distributing a japanese phone to other markets is not with the R&D but with the marketing, distribution, tariffs and regulations. The US gets majorly screwed on a TON of great stuff both electronics and not all because of the thousands of regulations and taxes, loops, hurdles and so forth it makes manufacturers endure before being able to sell their product in the states.

All of this costs money and most, if not all companies are unwilling to go through the hassle for very meager demand. It's funny how you europeans or non-japanese/korean asians complain about your lack of mobile tech. Look at us americans! We get the bottom of the barrel year after year. To us, EUROPE is a year or two a head in mobile tech and Japan is a dream away.

The US is the largest market in the world. You'd think if it were so easy to just sell their top product to any market, they would push it in the US because it would just take a "few modifications to make it use US bands". That's obviously not the case. There is no demand here for those devices because the general american mobile population is unaware of what's out there.
--
Posted: 2008-05-27 22:08:02
Edit : Quote




i disagree the time where nippon is ahead by years or even a single year is gone, TV's/Game Systems/Media Players ... etc all come out within MONTHS of their japanese counterparts without being crippled.

SPECIFICALLY SONY for example that new OLED 11" TV that they released 4 months after japan in the USA ... where demand is almost nil because the value isnt there HOWEVER that didnt stop them from producing it and selling it in an NTSC region, where they have to change out components to make it compatible with USA frequencies/display resolutions. so i will continue to say that you all need to stop expecting mediocrity! you cant prove this point as the company in question's parent doesnt even follow your logic, actually it quite proves the point im trying to establish.

not only is it feasible but it would be cheaper and garner more sales for the company. which they are in DIRE need of. how do i know that itll increase sales, well its the trickle down theory, the same one that got SE to the forefront 2/3 years ago.

diversification is doing EXACTLY what they believe CONSOLIDATION will do, and thats CANNIBALIZE sales ... a jack of all trades is a master of none.

all in one pinnacle of communication device, show off what your engineers can accomplish when untethered, and the rest will fall into place.
--
Posted: 2008-05-27 22:08:21
Edit : Quote


Each technology is different. It just so happens that mobile tech is a tech where Japan has always had a headstart. It is a small country which basically built its networks from the ground up because they did not have an established and complicated telephone system in place. They were able to go right to the mobile world without throwing out billions of dollars worth of established phone systems.

The US has always lagged behind due to its massive network of telephone systems and the undoubtedly trillions of dollars it has invested over the years in its telephone infrastructure. It was not about to just toss it aside for a new tech.

It just so happens that in other techs, such as TVs and displays, most countries are on relatively even ground. But what is true for one tech is not true for another.
--
Posted: 2008-05-27 22:13:48
Edit : Quote

---

New Topic   Topic Locked

Forum Index