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Corporative emails with direct access to internal system of my job via browser that can't be displayed on "mobile".
Some kind of fun watching Netflix and some websites with streaming.
Gaming in my free time too.
And a lot of other things that i have sure you'll use to argue that there's a way to it. (with an ARM11 and 512mb of RAM...)

And about the article that you showed,BS.
I would like to have one 808 here to exemplify what i'm talking about.
But i'll not spend 600$+ just to show you are wrong. (808 here is pricey and 1020 costs almost 1000$ dollars)
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Posted: 2014-01-30 17:08:16
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This isn't about YOU.... this is about your obvious agenda to bash something I don't think you're in full (or even partial) understanding of... Again, its about the PHONE and the fact that it is (ASIDE FROM SPECIFIC USER DESIRES) a well capable smartphone that can do most anything other "smart" phones can... once we can hammer that part out, I think you'll find that the you're just being very opinionated and closed minded. So again... please list functionality that is NON-specific while avoiding the use of NAME BRANDS.


Contrary to your very short minded opinion, its just the opposite, I wish to engage a very intelligent discussion with you.... I am not above saying I'm wrong and I do not wish to attack you personally but your stance seems quite obtuse.

So, please feel free to redraft your list and lets continue exploring all that the 808 is not capable of doing....







Resistance doesn't bother me 1% as much as ignorance.....

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Posted: 2014-01-30 17:21:32
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1) i don't think you actually know what smartphone means. Smartphone means being able to run applications that add capability to the phone. So no it is not about the brand name but about the capabilities that are added to the phone by those apps something that you can't do with Nokia 808

2) And no i am not here to bash Nokia 808 - i repeatedly said that i respect the fact that it is more than enough for many people i was just stating a list of tasks that Nokia 808 is not capable of doing- for someone that accused me of being illiterate i find it bemusing that you keep missing that

And by the way please don't say you don't wish to attack me personally when this is the first thing you did when i answered to your post and you keep doing that- obviously you are not capable of diagreeing with someone without personal attacking that person
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Posted: 2014-01-30 17:38:51
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The 808 Can't run Applications now??? WTF....


Now you're backing down.... I guess that's a good thing. Maybe when you went to redraft your "list" you realized you no longer had TWELVE dramatic entries.....


I disagree
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Posted: 2014-01-30 17:42:47
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It's not about what the 808PV can't do, heck even the 7yearld Nokia N95 8GB is just as "capable" as modern smartphones, thats a dead argument, the point is how seamless it is to do things on a 808PV vs. newer smartphones, how good is the experience? How simple is it?

The user experience in Android vs. Symbian is like day and night, from Banking, consuming media (buying/viewing eBooks,Music, TV shows, Magazines, textbooks etc...), streaming media, enterprise use in the work place with the BYOD system being adapted by many companies, Social Networking, HD gaming etc... The 808 faces many limitations in these areas, and would require ridiculous workarounds for some of these things, it's no longer a truly productive smartphone (never really was), it is a niche device and a sort of "one trick pony", with its Camera, a brilliant Camera at that, no doubt about it.
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Posted: 2014-01-30 17:51:59
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way to select something that i said and use it out of the context. - i guess you are proving how willing you are to have an intelligent conversation.

by the way i am not backing down from anything- i said the same thing all along about Nokia 808 - good enough for some not not good enough for others (a lot more based on the sales numbers)

Let me put this differently maybe you can finally give me an intelligent answer:

- can Nokia 808 do any of those functions that i listed? i don't care about running a specific app- all i am asking can you do on Nokia 808 any of those things/functions that are enabled on other smartphones by those apps?

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Posted: 2014-01-30 18:08:16
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I never have nor ever would attempt to debate "ease of use" it's so subjective.


If by one trick pony you mean;
-Camera
-Web browsing
-xenon flash
-bluetooth
-FM Transmitter
-Wifi
-USB host support
-HDMI
-Fully functional planner / calendar
-Timed profiles
-App support
-DLNA capability
-3.5mm video out
-removable memory
-Social networking
-Banking
-News & Weather
-Offline navigation
-Mirror link
and NFC...... Then I 100% agree with you!!!




I quoted you exactly!!! what did I take out of context?? You said (and again I quote)
"Smartphone means being able to run applications that add capability to the phone"
Can an 808 do that or not??

I'm done wasting my time on you... CU was right again!! Please don't expect any further responses from me until you can articulate a valid and intelligent point. (said with all due respect)

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Posted: 2014-01-30 18:20:34
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Don't play stupid with me you know exactly what I mean by One Trick Pony. If you REALLY don't then I really can't help you there.

Much like BlackBerry with its Security, the 808PV only has the Camera as a truly standout feature, it's beaten by even mid end Androids at everything else, including ease of use.
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Posted: 2014-01-30 18:32:29
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Do you even know what out of context means or are you just trolling now? you have taken it out of context actually as no where in my post i said Nokia 808 can't run apps!

If all you mean is what phone does out of the box without installing any apps than there are plenty of those things too:
video chat (facetime/google hangouts), it has not equivalent to imessage/facetime audio, it deaon't have seamless sync of browswer bookmarks/contact with the pc/tablet. At the moment out of the box Nokia 808 doesn't have a music store/ App Store

And even if out of the box capabilities was your point it is still a moot one because obviously most people need more functionality than what is coming straight out of box

i time wasting goes both ways by the way - don't think that you are any pleasure to have a conversation with .

At least unlike you cu is presenting valid argument as opposed to infantile replies (of course i say that with all due respect)

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Posted: 2014-01-30 18:39:45
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A little facetious maybe.... Stupid.. not by a long shot but if it makes you feel better, I'm good with that.



It only has the Camera.... really??? who's playing stupid now? If you really believe that it's I who cannot help you. But as I've said before, I'm open to learning. So please provide me a list of features without mentioning specific name brands which this "one trick pony" can't do and don't say that's not what its about this time... because you are now saying that by insinuating it is a one trick pony.... thats my only point... you want to bash it.... but you do so with only general statements lacking supporting information.

I have (in my previous post) listed features which meet this request/criteria so if "mid grade" android devices have them all, COOL...although I'm not aware of ANY other android device which has every feature of the 808. I want to now hear from you what any android device does have which is NOT on that list.

.......again, in case your forgetting.... here is my original post and I stand behind it...


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Posted: 2014-01-30 18:46:49
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