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Even so, what Eldar has said and has IMPLIED over the last few weeks hasn't been very trustworthy. I'm not saying we shouldn't trust Eldar, as he has proven reliable in the past. I'm simply saying that obviously there are changes happening to the prototypes all the time, and even now! So we can't really take what these people like Eldar are saying as fact. We must wait.
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Posted: 2008-05-29 11:32:13
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So it is possible to update from UIQ 3.0 to UIQ 3.3.
very good point
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Posted: 2008-05-29 11:41:45
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I've said it many times.
Eldar's "preview" is based on nothing real, or on some pieces of information only.
Nothing reliable, as for "leak".
His reviews are great though.
Paris must be strong, when it's UiQ3.3 and Opera 9.5 and etc.
RAM is at least 128MB.
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Posted: 2008-05-29 11:55:15
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On 2008-05-29 10:58:00, Mizzle wrote:
Actually... Eldar is right about the UIQ version. He wasn't lying. The very first prototypes did in fact only run UIQ 3.0, but as he said, he "updated its firmware and found out that all differences between the Paris and the G702 simply vanished" - aha! So it is possible to update from UIQ 3.0 to UIQ 3.3.
That's been my theory all along, and that, ladies and gents, might just be the reason why it's taken so long on the P1/W960 firmware updates.
This is exactly my point, sorry if i'm hurting somebody here, but Eldar didn't lie, he said what he knows, and what we all knows, he said that all prototypes till now has UIQ 3.0, and we all know this, and he didn't say a thing about the final version, wich we don't know...
but as mentioned by Mizzle the phone platform from UIQ 3.0 to 3.3 is not that much different so the update can be done, but this doesn't mean every UIQ 3.0 phone will be update to UIQ 3.3 ( P1i or W960i for example ) as it will take too much R&D for a dead already phone, Paris is P1i successor and W960i coming already this year so it's pointless to do such a big update ( UIQ 3.0 to UIQ 3.3 ) for a device that's already succeded by new version !!
even thought I have W960i, I don't want
to make a UIQ 3.3 update to it if this update will affect future
developement, it will be nice ofcourse to have a big update to my phone for free, but I care more about
making a good share in high-end phones rather than have this update to this phone, wich by the time that UIQ 3.3 mature, it will be old ( i'm seeing it old already
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Posted: 2008-05-29 13:53:24
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Ok...he answered me and said 96mb is FREE RAM - this is way above P1/W960/G900/G700, that also have total 128mb, but have around 80mb at boot - so UIQ 3.3 must be less RAM heavy?
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Posted: 2008-05-29 14:10:16
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On 2008-05-29 13:53:24, Xajel wrote:
the phone platform from UIQ 3.0 to 3.3 is not that much different so the update can be done, but this doesn't mean every UIQ 3.0 phone will be update to UIQ 3.3 ( P1i or W960i for example ) as it will take too much R&D for a dead already phone, Paris is P1i successor and W960i coming already this year so it's pointless to do such a big update ( UIQ 3.0 to UIQ 3.3 ) for a device that's already succeded by new version !!
Just wait until our beloved modder flashing it into P1 & W960
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Posted: 2008-05-29 14:41:00
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... or the phone may have more memory, say 160Mb compared to 128Mb, thus allowing UIQ 3.3 to have more functionality, grow without affecting performance?
(this is pure speculation BTW)
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Posted: 2008-05-29 14:44:47
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On 2008-05-22 17:53:44, Prom1 wrote:
On 2008-05-22 03:18:51, moogoo wrote:
typical ignorant american mobile user
Stating THAT without knowledge of what else SE is offering is ALSO ignorant. Without being able to properly brand and fix bugs, yes BUGS on the K850i AT&T Pulled it at the VERY LAST moment, stock was already READY to be shipped to stores, store channels already had print & billboard adds in house, then an EMERGENCY add pulled it.
offerings suited for North & South America ...
* SE K850i (only subsidy is in Canada; retail though is offered)
* SE W580i (retail or branded - BEST seller to date for ANY carrier or model by SE for this region, EVER)
* SE W350 has yet to get awarded subsidy.
* SE W760i STILL has yet to ship ... SE is LATE on this!
* SE Z750i old but STILL relevant, Triband 3G, A2 platform, decent cam for average call Id shots. Great MODEM speeds!
On 2008-05-22 18:24:24, moogoo wrote:
Oh Prom...
apparently you are not in the know with american users otherwise you would have fully understood the comment as my other fellow americans did.
The fact is the vast majority of american users are ignorant of actual GSM phone offerings. The only phones people know about here, are the ones that are offered by carriers. If it's not offered by a carrier, it doesn't exist. In addition, sadly, the phones carriers have are usually a year or two behind the rest of the world and this is the case undoubtedly due to taxes and regulations which slow the process.
* You can chaulk this up to Qualcomm and providers like Sprint/Nextel, Verizon, and Alltel - focusing and still pushing CDMA technology. Many phones are specific to this technology from Samsung or LG, and a few others - debuting phones first for this tech. However, the majority of phones debut on GSM first then almost 8mths - year later (example being the BB Curve; yet they did get the 8310 not the 8300)! Coverage is another factor keeping users on one provider & limiting range of phones then another. Major reason is phones are STILL designed for Europeans first & foremost by many manufacturers; jsut look at
's growing, existing, and past product range and see just how many ignore the 850mhz band.
On 2008-05-22 18:24:24, moogoo wrote:
So, do not insult me because you didn't "get" my comment as my other fellow americans apparently did.
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In addition, some of the models you listed are not on any carrier. Some of the models you listed do not support the american 850 GSM band, which already LIMITS it's ability to receive a proper signal. True that T-mobile in the US uses european bands, but it's also true that T-mobile is known to have the worst signals out of all the carriers.
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@ moogoo; ALL the models I've listed above support the 850mhz & 1900mhz GSM/GPRS bands, so I don't know how you missed that. Sorry that I didn't "get" what you meant. I was under the understanding that Americans (incl Canadians such as myself) were not ignorant to cellular technology or phone offerings, just that they are not marketed to us as heavily as in Europe nor negotiated to providers with such vigor.
* SE K850i (only subsidy is in Canada; retail though is offered)
* SE W580i (retail or branded - BEST seller to date for ANY carrier or model by SE for this region, EVER) [ AT&T Carries this model]
* SE W350 has yet to get awarded subsidy.
* SE W760i STILL has yet to ship ... SE is LATE on this!
* SE Z750i old but STILL relevant, Triband 3G, A2 platform, decent cam for average call Id shots. Great MODEM speeds![AT&T also carries this model]
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Posted: 2008-05-29 15:13:58
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can someone upload the high quality paris video in rapidshare please. I want the background music but when i download the video and convert it to mp3 file theres quality loss and noise.
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Posted: 2008-05-29 15:54:47
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On 2008-05-29 14:44:47, jayce wrote:
... or the phone may have more memory, say 160Mb compared to 128Mb, thus allowing UIQ 3.3 to have more functionality, grow without affecting performance?
(this is pure speculation BTW)
no, its 128mb total, for sure
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Posted: 2008-05-29 16:20:40
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