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Yes I believe the argument could be make about the k800 daylight photos being as good, mine certantly are..but my indoor and flash photo's are much better. However I don't want to post photo's of my friends using the flash. There are some things that do need to be improved with this phone but there are some nice upgraded feachers that i think makes it worth getting the phone, especially the screen.
Auto, daylight profile
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Posted: 2007-11-09 17:42:22
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Well i think itīs mainly common sense that most of the pictures are resized like the upload here on Esato for a close example. If you look at pictures on your monitor ofcourse you have a "wiewer" who zooms them down so you can see the whole picture instead of just a corner or so..
All pictures you use in real life you resize so you can mail them to your friends or making them web-friendly and so on. I also think very few people on this planet have a monitor that uses a resolution of 2592x1944 pixels and wiews their pictures at 100% all the time
I can agree that i would like to see less "noise" and stuf on the K850i pics when zooming them to 100% and the pictures doesent look so good compared to a "real" digicam. You can buy a "real" digicam today for lets say 125$ that would completely beat all mobile phones on this area..
But in reality and as i use my pictures i just love my K850i and the pictures it produces. They often are a bit "pale" straight out of the cam but the details are there. I quickly fix my pictures and resizes them in a simple photo program and this is no big deal for me. Around 5 seconds for a picture and then i have a picture i can enjoy and email my friends or publish on the web and be happy about. And if you dont know how a photoeditor/program works then my advice is to never buy a digital cam for this is very usefull even if you have a "real" digicam.
Bottom line is, the K850i produces MUCH better pictures than my previous K750/K800/K810. This is so obvious when browsing around all my earlier pictures. Zoomed to 100% maybe some earlier picture contains less noice but as you wiew the pictures in real life this doesent matter. The level of detail is much much better and this is really noticeable. And dont forget that when you look at K850s pictures at 100% you are looking at a much larger picture than K750/K800. They both would be resized smaller when for example printing a photo but the K850s would contain more details.
Other benefits are indoors and during bad lightning, i dont think i got one usable picture from my earlier K750/K800/K810 but now i can use my K850 as a partycam also. Itīs just a matter of not shooting in "Full Auto" and spend some time reading the photo tips here on Esato. I have had "real" digicams before that have done this job much worse than the K850 does.
For what it is the cam is very useful. Ofcourse i didnīt believe that this mobile phone should replace my real digicam but it does the job quite well and i always have it with me in my pocket.
In my eyes the cam in K850i are lightyears better than K750/K800/K810 but itīs still far from a "real" digicam. Ofcourse i canīt recomend people who owns the K800/K810 to spend the money or making an upgrade just for the cam in K850i. You would be better of to hold on to your phones and buy a real digicam to use separately instead. As i said earlier you get a "real" digicam today for around 125$ that will whoop all phones completely. But if you want a much better cam inside your phone and think itīs worth it then the K850i is a nice upgrade. Itīs up to you guys to decide. Just take a look through all pages here of sample pictures and then try to for example take a shot in low lightning.
OMG this went into a long post but i just felt for sharing some common sense.
[ This Message was edited by: Pitzon on 2007-11-09 20:58 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-09 18:12:31
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On 2007-11-09 18:12:31, Pitzon wrote:
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All pictures you use in real life you resize so you can mail them to your friends or making them web-friendly and so on. I also think very few people on this planet have a monitor that uses a resolution of 2592x1944 pixels and wiews their pictures at 100% all the time
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also for print. printing on A5 will give good result. camera phones are useful when you haven't a proper camera with you(unexpected situations), so if someone wants to print his pictures on A4, A3 ..., he should use a proper camera.
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Ofcourse i canīt recomend people who owns the K800/K810 to spend the money or making an upgrade just for the cam in K850i. You would be better of to hold on to you phones and buy a real digicam to use sepatately instead. As i said earlier you get a real digicam today for around 125$ that will whoop all phones completely.
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this is exactly what i intended to say, but waited to say someone else. 3MP is enough for a camera phone. if there are 5MP camera phones (and 7MPs next year), it's only because of competition between brands.
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@Bryan84:
where you read that with stablizer, the pic quality will reduce? (according to which manual?)
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@jmcomms:
still wait for your comparison tests. it's not that hard, just take two shot, one with stablizer, one without, then compare their dimensions.
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Posted: 2007-11-09 19:14:28
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sharpness from K850............
AND YES...THEY STILL LOOKS GOOD IN FULL SIZE
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-11-10 00:34 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-10 00:18:24
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On 2007-11-09 17:28:23, plankgatan wrote:
ps...show me one cell phone who have perfect sharpness in full size if its taken in lowlight, cloudy weather, etc, etc....the answer is NON.
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-11-09 16:33 ]
If you set ur k850i to timer and leave it on a surface to snap a landscape pic at night without flash, you should be able to get perfect sharpness right?
Can you help do that and post the pic here? I'm curious.
THanks.
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Posted: 2007-11-10 02:58:29
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There was yet no K850 users here that have dared to post text shots here may you post one guys?
and some 100% cropped text shots too?
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Posted: 2007-11-10 03:37:17
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On 2007-11-09 19:14:28, sadeghi85 wrote:
@Bryan84:
where you read that with stablizer, the pic quality will reduce? (according to which manual?)
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Sorry it was not from the manual book but the phone itself.
Camera Options >> Edit >> Stablilizer >> the press the "i" info icon.
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Posted: 2007-11-10 06:05:16
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On 2007-11-10 03:37:17, razec wrote:
There was yet no K850 users here that have dared to post text shots here may you post one guys?
and some 100% cropped text shots too?
Text shots? Do you mean Documents shots?
Full Size:
http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=8115
Exposure Time - 1/60 sec
Aperture - f/280
ISO - 64
Scene - Normal
Flash used - Flash did not fire, auto mode
Image resolution - 5.04 mega pixels (2592 x 1944
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Posted: 2007-11-10 06:16:25
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On 2007-11-09 18:12:31, Pitzon wrote:
I quickly fix my pictures and resizes them in a simple photo program and this is no big deal for me.
What program do you use?
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Posted: 2007-11-10 10:25:35
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@bryan84
you didn't get it...
it is saying that the image RESOLUTION is reduced not the image QUALITY...
in fact the stabilizer was put there to increase the image quality by compensating the movements of the hand by reserving a few pixcels from the sides of the photo so when your hand shakes... the picture will move within that reserved area so the sensor will remove that movement and what you get is a steady shot....
that is why when you move your hand in stabilizer mode the picture has a delay to follow your hand movement.
hope it was useful..
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Posted: 2007-11-10 11:02:55
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