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Well from reading the internet and other forums.

R1AD038 is still problamatic when taking photos.

Alot of people are staill saying that even with the new firmware the phone can and does take dark shots even with the flash.

So from this it looks like SE isnt listening or even fixing the phone.

I think now that the K850 may have a major flaw and its possible that the processor in the phone can not handle the new a200 platform. Which leads me to beleive that no matter what SE does to the firmware, it will never be right.

The processor in the K850 is no different to the K850, however the K800 processor has less to do in the A100 platform so resulting in a much smoother and better performance phone.

However when you put a old processor with New software then alot of the times the processor cant cope with the demand.

Any one elses views on this?
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Posted: 2007-12-26 22:36:21
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try to do master rest and it will fix the problem
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Posted: 2007-12-26 23:05:05
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I don't trust anyone on the net that has faulty photos because they probably are just holding the phone in a way that obstructs the flash.

Seriously, everyone I know who has a K850i has no problems with the camera. You have to give the flash a lot of clearance in order for the phone to produce good photos. The flash is located differently than on the K800 so you have to hold it as instructed in the user manual.

I won't believe anyone unless they provide video proof of the phone being faulty. Perhaps there may be one or two cases, but then again just get the phone replaced.

I don't think R1DA038 is the big update, I'm sure there will be more to come, this was the case for the K800 - some fixes led to new bugs, but it took them a while to get it straightened out. Unfortunately I really hate the lagginess of the UI (perhaps it's the processor on the new A2 platform?) and I believed that it could be fixed with firmware updates, but I am convinced otherwise right now...

All I can hope is for this phone to be in top shape by February 1. If not, then I will kiss this phone goodbye. Although I do have to admit, I am quite attracted to the design of the K850i... it will be hard to let it go. At least the Nokia N95 8GB will look quite tempting by then...

[ This Message was edited by: obentou on 2007-12-26 22:09 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-26 23:05:12
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What can you say? It's a phone with so much potential that simply fails to deliver. I don't doubt that SE will sort the software issues, but unless it's just proving extremely difficult for them, they don't seem to be in a rush to restore our lost confidence.
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Posted: 2007-12-26 23:06:00
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I am unsure if it's company arrogance or whatever, but all they have to do is simply give us feedback, whether or not it is on forums or on their own website.

We all know that communication is vital in establishing a relationship with customer and a company... although I have heard stories that SE reads what we post at Esato, unless we are given credible feedback this rumour is just false hope.

Never in my life have I experienced a phone with this many bugs... the K800 was bad back then, but man, it just gets worse.
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Posted: 2007-12-26 23:12:17
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I can get the phone to produce some dark pics very easy.

Just turn the phone arround and take a shot of yourself at arms length.

The pics can be good, dark or black.

Turn the flash of and the pics are bright and general fine.

I took a photo of my friends in a resteraunt sat over the table which is about 1 meter appart and they all came out black, i changed a few settings and in the end switched the flash of and they then came out natural and fine.

It all seems to do with whats behind you, the colour and brightness.

If you are out side i cant fault the pics.

To be honest i have just come back from Vegas and took both my phone and digital camera.

I have taken the same shots with both.

My honest conclusion, the phone took slightly more natural shots than the camera (Better colour) clarity and sharpness were the same.

Indoors and the phone fell on its head, shocking, bluriness, dark and colours either too high in colour or not enough.

Camera didnt have any problems at all.

The camera is a Sony W5 (5mb) with no change in settings.

I am a point and click person. Ok not ideal in every sittuation, but ideal in most indoor and outdoor shots

However the video i took with the phone inside the same hotels are very good on the phone and playback on the comp, Colour, contrast very correct. So it seems to be when taking the pics.

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-12-26 22:23 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-26 23:13:48
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mine takes lots of hit and miss pics and i hold it exactly as suggested in the manual.
1st SE phone for me and last if they dont fix the firmware, just a shame im tied in now for 2 yrs,
this threads starting to depress me now !
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Posted: 2007-12-26 23:20:49
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Dont get depressed.

Theres always light at the end of a tunnel
currenlty its a candle in the K850i, but i know, hope and pray that SE fixes the issue.

If not then consumer power will do the rest.

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-12-26 22:26 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-26 23:24:49
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Really.

I can't get it to take any dark pictures, out of 2 K850i's I've been through. Unless I purposely obstruct the flash in some way.

I see why you may be getting dark/black pictures now. If your middle finger's knuckle is in ANY close proximity to the flash, the pictures will turn out that way. Moving the knuckle 1-2cm away from the flash, and the pictures turn out good as usual.

[ This Message was edited by: obentou on 2007-12-26 22:36 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-26 23:33:29
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Done that and i get slightly better pics, but i can still get them to be dark.

I even use the self timer (so no hands hldint the phone)

I dont think its the phone or camera it self but the use of a white auto focus.

The white auto focus lamp puts extra light on the close subject, so the camera thinks its quiet bright, this cause then the pic to be dark.

The red auto focus lamp on a camera doesnt cause this as Red doesnt show up as bright on a subject. So this may be the series design flaw in the phone.

So the fault may lie with the auto focus lamp it self. What do you think

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Posted: 2007-12-26 23:57:42
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