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Why are we even having this argument ? A few Esato members have seen retail/demo Z1 units in Sony stores and they all praise the display and report no issues with viewing angles.
So what's the point of even continuing with this discussion based on a few bad prototypes at IFA?
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Posted: 2013-09-12 06:26:22
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Because a lot of us have gotten tired of having prototypes and pre-production firmware as the culprit for all ailments and we're bored. Probably.
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Posted: 2013-09-12 06:32:38
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http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mob[....]ony-xperia-z1-review-50012187/
reliable?
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Posted: 2013-09-12 06:36:40
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On 2013-09-12 06:32:38, Rockarel wrote:
Because a lot of us have gotten tired of having prototypes and pre-production firmware as the culprit for all ailments and we're bored. Probably.
So you mean all the people who saw the Z1 in stores with their own eyes are lying ?
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Posted: 2013-09-12 06:41:56
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On 2013-09-12 06:41:56, randomuser wrote:
On 2013-09-12 06:32:38, Rockarel wrote:
Because a lot of us have gotten tired of having prototypes and pre-production firmware as the culprit for all ailments and we're bored. Probably.
So you mean all the people who saw the Z1 in stores with their own eyes are lying ?
so you're offering an assurance that there's no xperia z redux here? what did sony fans say about the ugly xz display back then (me included)? it was just a prototype... well ... we really hope it's a different case this time. i don't think you can deny that none of all the review websites on the internet said the xz was that different from what was seen on CES.
even the photos of the alleged chinese z1 retail unit posted above look washed out.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2013-09-12 05:58 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-12 06:53:42
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On 2013-09-12 06:41:56, randomuser wrote:
On 2013-09-12 06:32:38, Rockarel wrote:
Because a lot of us have gotten tired of having prototypes and pre-production firmware as the culprit for all ailments and we're bored. Probably.
So you mean all the people who saw the Z1 in stores with their own eyes are lying ?
Lying is such a harsh word. Let's just say that I want to find someone who can give a completely impartial review of the screen and don't know that I've found that person yet. Bonovox seems the closest (he hasn't pulled punches on the Z1's faults, but has also commended the screen on its qualities), so I'd like to hear a more in-depth review of the screen from someone who isn't being paid to say things and doesn't have all his/her eggs in the Sony/Samsung/HTC basket.
I think that weird sounding British/Irish/Scottish guy in the previously linked video came the closest to accurately describing what I've personally seen from different sites (that being a great screen, not as good as the HTC One, and still with some contrast/angle problems when compared to other phones). The nice part about that review was that he didn't qualify most of his descriptions with "viewing angles are the most important thing, therefore Z1 is garbage", or conversely "Z1 has triluminos tech, therefore it's the best", so I'd like to hear more objective reviews like that.
I'm probably going to have to add something to my signature like
"DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT A TROLL AND DESPITE WHAT I SAY IN DISCUSSIONS, I STILL PLAN ON GETTING THE Z1.
TO THE FANBOYS: SONY IS AWESOME AND I LOVE IT SO MUCH.
TO THE SONY HATERS: I HATE SONY AND ALL THAT THEY STAND FOR, SAMSUNG IS AWESOME"
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Posted: 2013-09-12 07:06:26
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@miromiromi -- when a screen is so bright (clearly Z1 is brighter than GS4), the camera taking the photo is unable to distinguish the details in the brightness. As great as digital cameras are, they don't come close to the human eye. Give it a try with whatever you have or can get your hands on that has a "great" display in your opinion. Turn it up really bright and then place it next to another phone that's half the brightness and take a photo so that both are in focus. I guarantee the brighter one will look more washed out, when in reality, with your own eyes, it looks perfectly fine.
i think everyone truly is bored. let's just wait another week or two until many more retail units have been circulated to users and reviewers alike, and see what the general consensus is. this thread is starting to become a broken record
now if anybody has insider information on when sony is gonna make C6906 available, i'm all ears!
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-09-12 06:14 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-12 07:12:00
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I believe C6906 is on pre-order already, but at a hefty price. maybe $890? can't remember exactly. I remember one site had it for less than $800, but don't remember where I saw that.
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Posted: 2013-09-12 07:23:38
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@supercoolman .. it was listed but it was one of those sketchy sites that post inaccurate information and outrageous prices, hoping to catch some uninformed consumer. i'm definitely not going by that site
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Posted: 2013-09-12 07:27:41
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On 2013-09-12 07:12:00, moogoo wrote:
@miromiromi -- when a screen is so bright (clearly Z1 is brighter than GS4), the camera taking the photo is unable to distinguish the details in the brightness. As great as digital cameras are, they don't come close to the human eye. Give it a try with whatever you have or can get your hands on that has a "great" display in your opinion. Turn it up really bright and then place it next to another phone that's half the brightness and take a photo so that both are in focus. I guarantee the brighter one will look more washed out, when in reality, with your own eyes, it looks perfectly fine.
i think everyone truly is bored. let's just wait another week or two until many more retail units have been circulated to users and reviewers alike, and see what the general consensus is. this thread is starting to become a broken record
now if anybody has insider information on when sony is gonna make C6906 available, i'm all ears!
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-09-12 06:14 ]
yea you're right there but the post said "auto brightness" ...
so now we're finding another weakness ?? "auto brightness under complete darkness is still too bright??" ...hehe... kidding.
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Posted: 2013-09-12 07:29:16
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