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yuunanase Posts: 291

Thanks for clarifying that. I remember someone suggest that SP (HuaShan) and L was developed in Beijing, so I instantly assumed that Odin was from Sweeden
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Posted: 2013-06-16 07:55:08
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randomuser Posts: > 500

No, SP was also finished in Tokyo. A chinese codename doesn't mean that the device was developed in Beijing. Numerous Sony Ericsson devices had Japanese codenames(Satio,Arc,Xperia S,Ray) doesn't mean they were developed at Tokyo
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Posted: 2013-06-16 07:58:53
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bipinm Posts: 194

@supercoolman : Check first page for XR ratings...

Rumor Grading System Reference

XR1 = probably fake rumor
XR2 = rumor from unknown sources
XR3=50% chance it is correct
XR4=rumor from known sources
XR5=almost certainly correct!


As i am seeing honami as a cameraphone that is made to crush nokia and samsung, i want a xenon flash... Like somebody mentioned above it will make the image blur free and will have faster shutter speed and will be good for night photographs...It should also have atleast one LED for video mode and for torch...I will forget Xenon, if Sony can deliver exceptionally good low light Photos...And also the New Jpeg engine should be the best...
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Posted: 2013-06-16 08:31:54
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unknownC151A Posts: 459


On 2013-06-16 07:48:26, randomuser wrote:
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Don't know where you got that from. All devices are developed in Tokyo. Lund is only for software now and Beijing is a more like complimentary to Tokyo. No 2013 device has been developed at Beijing or Lund.

But of course all 2013 devices including Togari were first conceived at Lund, and for the most part completed in Tokyo. The first device to be developed entirely from ground up at Tokyo is Honami aka i1.
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Xperia E is. OMD devices are Chinese.
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Posted: 2013-06-16 08:33:42
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randomuser Posts: > 500

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Yes but that's not under SMC, so that doesn't count. Xperia E is made by a Taiwanese ODM Compal I believe. Tipo was by Foxconn China
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Posted: 2013-06-16 08:37:25
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supercoolman Posts: > 500


On 2013-06-16 08:31:54, bipinm wrote:
@supercoolman : Check first page for XR ratings...

Rumor Grading System Reference

XR1 = probably fake rumor
XR2 = rumor from unknown sources
XR3=50% chance it is correct
XR4=rumor from known sources
XR5=almost certainly correct!



someone used XR100... will XR1000 show up sometime in the next 2 weeks?
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Posted: 2013-06-16 08:44:58
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bipinm Posts: 194

that was sarcasm...Someone was annoying...Guess who....
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Posted: 2013-06-16 09:00:11
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nightwing369 Posts: 415


On 2013-06-16 07:48:26, randomuser wrote:
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Don't know where you got that from. All devices are developed in Tokyo. Lund is only for software now and Beijing is a more like complimentary to Tokyo. No 2013 device has been developed at Beijing or Lund.

But of course all 2013 devices including Togari were first conceived at Lund, and for the most part completed in Tokyo. The first device to be developed entirely from ground up at Tokyo is Honami aka i1.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-06-16 06:51 ]

Does that mean that in Europe, stocks of the Honami could be low post release, just like with the Z as it has to all be shipped from Japan?
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Posted: 2013-06-16 09:30:18
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Jubei1 Posts: 99


On 2013-06-16 07:45:47, yuunanase wrote:

On 2013-06-16 06:28:11, Ricky D wrote:

I can see Honami is going to upset some people here. There are two groups of people n this thread at the moment, group 1 wants an awesome phone with the best camera a phone has had and group 2 wants a compact camera that can take a phone call and send some texts.



Group 2 has already been fulfilled by XZ, and later Ray 3. If Honami is anything like that, they will be behind competitors again. After all these hype, SMC will not be stupid enough to do this.

I have some more questions on future models:

1) I am also wondering, will there be an overclocked version of Z later this year, similar to arc S and SL?
2) If all models with japanese names (Yuga, Gaga, Dogo) are designed by the Toyko office, Chinese names (HuaShan) are from Beijing and Scandinavic names (Odin) are from Lund, will there be any other devices from anywhere other than Tokyo for H2?




I think you are overestimating the popularity of a camera phone. Pureview 808 sold like crap, some people blame Nokia marketing but N9 was in the same situation and it was outselling the entire Lumia line, Lumia 920 also sold like crap

A number of vocal people want high level cameras and are willing to sacrifice weight size for it, the vast majority of people however want a camera good enough for facebook, its the other qualities they want like screen, sound, size

So if Honami is a 180 gram thick beast im sure the 1 million photography lovers will buy it, but that leaves Sony behind its REAL competitors, Nokia EOS is not a competitor, it wont sell, neither will Samsungs camera phones, thats why its not their flagship but just a sideproject

Ray 3 might not be out until q1 2014, that is if its a flagship, zomg thinks its a mid ranger. Either way it leaves Sony without a flagship for 2H 2013 if they go with your plan. Im still hoping there will be 2 versions, one a pure camera phone, the other a slimmer mainstream flagship with high end materials
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Posted: 2013-06-16 09:39:50
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bipinm Posts: 194

If we talk abt sales..then Its Sony..no doubt...

But when Websites compare camera performance...then its Nokia 808 and 920...then comes the others...
This has to change with Honami...Sony have the tech for it...
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Posted: 2013-06-16 09:57:11
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