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Watch TV - YES, I will not list the NAME OF THE APP but just as proof, you may click that link... as far as the SPECIFIC content, I have never used it so again am avoiding specific preferences and concentrating only on the actual feature.


YES


"Easily" is a subjective term but YES, you can send money to someones bank account


Use the phone as a remote / control equiptment
I have never used it but I believe this is part of the DLNA feature on the phone... I must however admit you may have a feature here!!!


Those are the same and I will classify them as Split Screen


I'm going to need more clarification on this as I'm not 100% sure of what you mean and don't want to assume. But if you are talking about using your phone to play games displayed on your tv, YES - either via HDMI or 3.5 video out. If you are talking about connecting an external controller to your phone to play that game (which is on your phone but displayed on the TV) then I do need more clarification as I have a feeling what your are talking about but would require a name brand and or for your TV to be involved which is not what we are talking about. Lets keep it to ON THE DEVICE the same as CU can't start involving a laptop, its not fair to involve an external TV.


YES - wifi direct is indeed the same as DLNA just different name


Again, I will ask for clarification on this one but the answer is YES if I understand you correctly. I can indeed integrate my video messaging, email and contacts to all be accessible from the phones directory but again, I want to be sure I understand exactly what functionality you speak of.


Hey... this is why we are here... to learn, debate and build a point of reference for all things mobile.... so long as you leave out the passive aggressive trolling attempts (not you / other users) I am 100% willing to be engaged in debate and as I have said before will willing admit when I don't know. However... see the progress we have made.... we started with a list of 12 things you thought the 808 couldn't do and now we are down to 2 or maybe three. With the input of someone like CU who is more familiar with apps and firmware, maybe we can knock that list down to just split-screen multi tasking. Wouldn't that be cool... then you could go get another 808 and start ENJOYING your premier imaging smartphone!!

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Posted: 2014-01-31 14:23:05
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mlife

Wifi direct is nothing at all like dlna - it is connecting 2 phones through wifi to transmit data from one to another (like bluetooth). The only reason i mentioned it it is because it is much faster than bluetooth
how do you get push notifications? - i.e. in the notifications center i get notified about my fav team scores/upcoming fixtures, latest sport news, news in general (depending on the interest). Also i get notified of train line closures (happens a lot in London)
send money easiliy i meant using the other persons phone number- you don't need to record the bank account details as long as they are registered to the service. The reson i am saying this is because otherwose the only way to pay someone you haven't paid before is by using a pin entry machine
as far as i know (i could be wrong) dlna is transmiting image to compatible tv where the function i listed means controlling them/ audio systems like you do with a remote
also another one i thought of- can you have the boarding pass saved on you phone (and use that in the airport like a proper boaring pass- etc have it scanned when you go through the gate tec)

in regards to sync of video/message app with the contacts i meant for example if you have a contact on skype or fring ad the same contact is in your phone book- it will show as one entry in the phonebook

As far as buying the 808 - sadly with Nokia cutting off the support there is less incentive for me to buy one . And i will be honest with you- without taking a shot at it by te way- i would prefer something with OIS like 1020 for the night shots even though 808 has a stronger xenon flash light
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Posted: 2014-01-31 15:23:19
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Yes no yes no
Come on, what a waste of energy.
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Posted: 2014-01-31 16:08:35
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Okay... then if thats the case, you are simply talking about the feature "data transfer" and the specific means are a moot point. Yes the 808 can transfer data - AGAIN, I'm not talking about how fast or fancy the 808 can perform any task, simply that it can do it, thats all.


I don't use any push notification apps or services but they are out there... a simple search on the internet will answer your question.


YES - again, I'm only providing this LINK to ease your doubts.


so basically this feature you speak of is like a remote control for other devices. ... you may want to read this..
http://www.zdnet.com/another-[....]-its-worth-the-700-7000001019/


I fly twice a month with Delta and use my electronic boarding pass ALL THE TIME - I have no less than a DOZEN saved right now!! ... the only thing that annoys me and this could be something the 808 lacks although I could be wrong, is a screen lock... sometimes when going to scan my boarding pass, the screen will flip and I have to re-orient the phone.... Maybe we have discovered something here.


Yes - the 808 does consoladate contacts to ONE person with multiple contact points for that entry.


I'm glad you used the word prefrence because that's what this ALL boils down to.

And again, we know, the platform is dead... but as a user of the 1020 as well, I can tell you (with a tripod) the 1020 has no advantage over the 808 at night other than ease of use (which again is subjective) CU uses a tripod and with my 1020 I don't have to in similar circumstances ... but if you have a tripod and a flashlight (to help the 808 focus in the dark)... you can accomplish the same image but even better some might argue.

example.... if your shutter speed is increased or iso is dropped, they must always compensate in the opposite direction. ISO 100 @ 1/500sec is the SAME EXACT exposure as ISO 50 @ 1/125 of a second.

The 808 can shoot a 2.7 sec exposure at ISO 50 where as the 1020 can only shoot as low as ISO 100 @ 4 seconds. The equivalent nighttime exposure for the 808 would be 5.4 seconds if it were allowed in firmware . lets not also forget the size of the 808 sensor vs the 1020 which compensates for the diff in aperture of the two devices. Not trying to derail our discussion but my point is the 808 gets overlooked for what it is far too often. And I for one would rather the clean 808 image over the 1020 image when I was shooting a "keeper"... I do love my 1020 however, don't get me wrong

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Posted: 2014-01-31 16:44:20
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mlife

the money transfer you suggested is nothing like what i said, push notification again not what i was refering to, same as the remote functionality

Anyway i get your point about how capable 808 is. I will only say that just like how wifi direct is a moot point for you- the same for me is not being able to run certain apps makes having that capability moot as well. For example wtching tv cable is possible however if i can't have the local tv cable from here in London the whole thing is of no use for me

Anyway in terms of camera i know what you are saying about the tripod- i don't wish to carry a tripod with me . Don't get me wrong i am not saying the 1020 camera is better i just find more convenient not having to carry a tripod

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Posted: 2014-01-31 17:05:08
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Yup.... I thank you for this comment. I originally was going to try and justify how this was not a waste of energy, but after I started typing, realized how right you were. All the abilities of the 808 and any other device for that matter are available via a simply search of the intrawebs. And although I'm not minimizing anyone else's preferences, I have already made quite clear (to anyone without an agenda) how capable and relevant the 808 is still today.

That will be my personal last words on the matter. Thanks hihihans for the reality slap




I couldn't agree with you more.

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Posted: 2014-01-31 17:12:18
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mlife

So do you think Nokia can come out with a phone with a camera better than 808 and 1020? It is just i am starting to think i should have kept the 1020 but i am secretly hoping something better (with xenon flash) will come along
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Posted: 2014-01-31 17:28:01
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Today's smartphones are smarter than what Nokia did 10years ago, ever heard of Google Now or Tasker? Those two alone are a major advancement, your phone can now tell you about real time live traffic and give a time to leave a place to avoid it without me even picking it up, it can tell you when your stock is below or above a certain amount without even having to go and browse to see, if I arrive at a certain area it can tell me of sites and events without me even having to search etc...

Yes the 808 is inferior, except for its camera, it is indeed inferior.
The only way you can strengthen your point is by tweaking the argument your favour, removing names and means, filing a feature down to something simple so you can say the 808 can do it.

You wanted to do this...I'll use my GS4 as an example

-IR Blaster, being able to control a huge amount of media devices with IR be it with built in apps or 3rd party apps.
-WiFi Direct, being able to BOTH transfer and stream media to other devices DIRECTLY from the phone, be it Movies, Music, Games etc...
-Split screen multitasking
-Memory Clipboard, being able to save multiple items in the phone clipboard, be it Photos, Notes, Screenshots, Links etc... At once
-Being able to watch Full Flash HD1080P videos on websites
-Being able to capture HD1080P videos with both cameras at once
-Gesture sensor, the 808 does not even have this, this allows all kinds of inputs without touching the display, be it seeing notifications, answering a call etc...
-I could go on about the Humidity Sensor and others that help with Health/Fitness apps, weather apps, GPS etc...

These are features that the 808 doesn't have.


WHAAAT!!!?? LOOOOOL! you are turning this into one very desperate and pathetic attempt to make the 808 look good, 1st you didn't want name brands now you don't want the specific means???
Sorry, but that's just not true, when you consider how ridiculously fast WiFi Direct is, and it does not JUST deal with Data Transfer, it also allows streaming media from your phone to multiple other devices at once. That's like someone with an old SE P990 comparing it to a new Smarphone and trying to play down 4G LTE, it's like saying "Oh, so you are simply talking about the feature 'Internet' and the specific means are a moot point". I mean get serious here mlife, c'mon dude.

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Posted: 2014-01-31 17:53:36
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I think we all know that it will eventually happen ... but I would agree that you got rid of your 1020 too quickly as it will probably take some time for that to occur and it will likely not even be Nokia. If I had my guess it would be Sony to finally put something out which would surpass both devices (808 & 1020) as they are the current benchmark.

@Tsepz_GP
you're just an angry troll which either refuses (or lacks the mental capacity) to understand anything discussed here today so again I have already posted my last words on the matter. It's all there - go back and read.
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Posted: 2014-01-31 18:26:11
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Here something refreshing ..

This is the state of my phone after 18 months of use without any protection whatsoever.

A few nasty drops, and considering how heavy it is.. damage was done. The scratches appear blue because my jeans rub off on them





screens seems fine



and the camera gets the most abuse when you lay it on it's back..





I plan on using for at least another 12 months .. unless Microsoft puts out a 1 inch sensor phone
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Posted: 2014-01-31 18:27:18
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