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supercoolman Posts: > 500


On 2016-07-11 14:58:41, Ricky D wrote:

On 2016-07-11 11:54:18, tai020381 wrote:
5 to 5.2 inches enough ! ~~


I'd like you to meet my wife.



he could be referring to diagonal
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Posted: 2016-07-12 09:36:12
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Xajel Posts: > 500

For me, the size of Z5 Premium (5.5) is the way to go, but 5.2 is fine also...

I personally think that 6.44 is too large and think 6" is best size for a phablet, but I never tried one my self ( only few minutes in the store when Ultra first launched ), so I can't give a good opinion here...

so a flagship with multiple size options

4.7 : Compact
5.2 : Regular
5.5-5.7 : Premium/Plus
6.0-6.4 : Ultra

Sounds interesting... IF Sony is listening 😡

Rest of spec.
- Qualcomm newest SoC at that time, being 821 or newer
- 4GB RAM
- 64GB ROM ( UFS2.0 )
- external storage with support for both microSD and UFS ( and Idea, if we can't arrange the pins in a way to handle both types like how some phones can handle either a SIM or microSD, then we can just have another tray which flips the card making the contacts pin in the opposing direction )
- Hi-Res DAC with decent power and quality
- Camera, well we just need something that standout from the crowd
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Posted: 2016-07-12 10:36:33
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Gitaroo Posts: > 500

If sony can't match this they can go home

http://www.xda-developers.com[....]-3-deluxe-with-snapdragon-821/
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Posted: 2016-07-13 05:26:10
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Archdragoon Posts: > 500


On 2016-07-13 05:26:10, Gitaroo wrote:
If sony can't match this they can go home

http://www.xda-developers.com[....]-3-deluxe-with-snapdragon-821/


While its spec is outstanding its UI and design is opposite.
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Posted: 2016-07-13 05:54:31
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hello1000 Posts: 149


On 2016-07-13 05:26:10, Gitaroo wrote:
If sony can't match this they can go home

http://www.xda-developers.com[....]-3-deluxe-with-snapdragon-821/


You don't understand how Sony works, they do not compare or match becouse others do it.

Look at Samsung S7, the best hardware acoording many reviews but in performance weak if you compare Xperia X or X performance.

Those two devices from Sony beat the shit out of the Samsung in performance unlike people like you who blind follow the mass.

Higher RAM and CPU clock does not means faster or performance than a device with less hardware.

If Sony wants, they can even more than Asus, but they didnt becouse Sony focust on performance and quality and follow not the mass like Samsung,LG, Asus or many chinese companies do.
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Posted: 2016-07-13 07:13:13
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Xajel Posts: > 500


On 2016-07-13 07:13:13, hello1000 wrote:

You don't understand how Sony works, they do not compare or match becouse others do it.

Look at Samsung S7, the best hardware acoording many reviews but in performance weak if you compare Xperia X or X performance.

Those two devices from Sony beat the shit out of the Samsung in performance unlike people like you who blind follow the mass.

Higher RAM and CPU clock does not means faster or performance than a device with less hardware.

If Sony wants, they can even more than Asus, but they didnt becouse Sony focust on performance and quality and follow not the mass like Samsung,LG, Asus or many chinese companies do.


I, You, and our Esato'ers fellows know this thing, sadly outside our humbled community.. only 1% know this...

I think the current plan for Sony mobile is to get the highest profit as it can...

1- They know that their Software optimisation is far superior than any other maker, making them requiring lower hardware spec. than others to match the same performance level.
2- They have a low midrange spec. in a midrange phone and viola they have a high-end performance, let's price it like this.
3- They have a highend spec. in a highend phone but it has a flagship performance, so lets price it as a flagship

While this works, it does actually looking at Sony Mobile financial reports, it means much much less market share.. Sony washed their hands from getting market share, they focus now on building something like iPhone, where people will just pay just to get Sony... if it's Sony then it's fast, responsive and good UI Experience..

Our Android community still doesn't believe in this, it believes the higher the spec. the better the phone.. so for them Sony is just too damn expensive phone and ignore everything else

Sony had three issues before, Hardware, Software & Marketing... now they managed to get the Software close to perfection ( still needs some love for the enthusiasts of us ), but the decline on Hardware.. and Marketing ? well nothing changes maybe it's worse actually

Sony's vision might work if they plan it gradually, make a good spec.ed phone with good price and the same good software optimisations, people will just love it.. will know the value of Sony brand, and then they will be "programmed" like how iPhones peoples are now.. they don't care about spec.. If it's Apple then it's good without a question...

But Sony is Jumped directly to the conclusion, so peoples are just ignoring...
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Posted: 2016-07-13 07:44:58
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HxH Posts: > 500


On 2016-07-12 10:36:33, Xajel wrote:


Rest of spec.
- Qualcomm newest SoC at that time, being 821 or newer
- 4GB RAM
- 64GB ROM ( UFS2.0 )
- external storage with support for both microSD and UFS ( and Idea, if we can't arrange the pins in a way to handle both types like how some phones can handle either a SIM or microSD, then we can just have another tray which flips the card making the contacts pin in the opposing direction )



They're listening I believe but their under tight and heavily pressure from profit focus policy

UFS external is really nice touch from Samsung but it will need to pick up in among mainstream manufacturers first before Sony decide to jump in, same as well as USB-C eventually it is the future maybe BoM matter

As for SoC, SD821 just squeeze out a little bit more I'd worry about thorttle performance, SD820 can withstand in 15 mins torture test before get reduce speed, also SD820 shall be fine in certain tasks without hurting Sony's bottom line.

After brief research on few X Performance reviews on the internet, I hopefully Sony to maximize it all out within two maybe three upcoming firmware updates.
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Posted: 2016-07-13 09:53:34
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badassmam Posts: > 500

It is very possible for pretty much any company to make a phone with these ultra high specs but it doesn't mean you get a great end product. Apple are the masters, they use lower spec hardware but the end user experience is beautiful. It works straight away and its smooth. This is what Sony is trying to do with the X and they show that it is comparable to the S7. I feel they could've added the waterproofing but perhaps the Japanese market has forced them to lower its specs and make the X Performance.

I just want a new Compact that doesn't have the top chipset that throttles and overheats but it needs to not skimp anywhere else so have a 1080p display, XA design, waterproofing and so on. My Z3+ has put me off so much because of the processor and battery, I'm really tempted to just pick up a Z3C because I know I'll be so much happier in life....but every time I see the XA my head tells me to wait for IFA before deciding.
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Posted: 2016-07-13 12:25:43
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Ranjith Posts: > 500


On 2016-07-13 07:13:13, hello1000 wrote:

On 2016-07-13 05:26:10, Gitaroo wrote:
If sony can't match this they can go home

http://www.xda-developers.com[....]-3-deluxe-with-snapdragon-821/


You don't understand how Sony works, they do not compare or match becouse others do it.

Look at Samsung S7, the best hardware acoording many reviews but in performance weak if you compare Xperia X or X performance.

Those two devices from Sony beat the shit out of the Samsung in performance unlike people like you who blind follow the mass.

Higher RAM and CPU clock does not means faster or performance than a device with less hardware.

If Sony wants, they can even more than Asus, but they didnt becouse Sony focust on performance and quality and follow not the mass like Samsung,LG, Asus or many chinese companies do.


All that and then why is SONY inching to their demise every second? You need to feed what people want..what the masses want. If they want the best spec, you have to give it to them.
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Posted: 2016-07-13 14:40:02
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amirprog Posts: > 500

^^ Not sure where some of the statements here by some people here come from, but they do not represent the end result. X per (or the other x devices) has no worthy advantage in comparisons to what rivals offer. On the contrary, the rivals outdo sony mobile in comparisons in overall quality after calculating all the results with better/much better overall package, be it in display, camera, performance, design (most of them), future proof spec (memory comes to mind), ip68 (s7/s7 edge has it), battery - as good or better, unique features - more, price - for example, s7 and g5 can be easily found for less then x per price, etc. By the way, i also do my own comparisons as much as i can do and my conclusions are no different.
Sony is living in their own isolated world thinking people will buy their overpriced devices because of the "sony" brand logo, which is a crucial mistake. Meanwhile, People are voting with their money and they sure make it loud and clear that they don't like what sony mobile is offering, not for the price, and that includes the x line, and all the reviewers who actually make the reviews and the more detailed comparisons are not favoring the x trio, to say it lightly. Well, no surprise. Sony mobile is in the slow but sure track to demise for a long time now and the bothering thing is that they are not making any signs of changing their track.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2016-07-13 15:28 ]

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Posted: 2016-07-13 16:21:52
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