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I am not sure what you are referring to.... I don't get the joke
Hmm, well I just discovered a weird behaviour with the camera... I put my finger on the hole beside the AF light on the camera, and the flash goes off with very little power, meaning it gives off a near-black photo. However if I block the hole with an object, say a thin piece of opaque material, the flash operates normally. The reason for this, I have absolutely no idea...
[ This Message was edited by: obentou on 2007-12-27 21:04 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-27 22:03:13
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Just my 2cents,
The photos below show one with full auto flash settings (ie SE dark photo function
) and one with flash off (ie good pic). Both taken one after the other on a bright sunny day.
IMHO camera aperture on auto flash mode too small, it's like SE reversed the aperture settings for day and night photos such that flashed photos are too dark and non-flash photos are too bright.
Was also reading the manual last night and it actually officially states that the phone SHOULD be restarted everyday to reset the memory, reducing chances of lack of memory errors. With new long lasting batteries, when was the last time you guys restarted your phones?
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Posted: 2007-12-27 22:30:26
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hello,
it seems to be a firmware issue, not a hardware one because with a little trick I managed to take good photos in dark environment with auto settings. What I did was to use the autofocus, so I pushed the camera button half way down and then the camera focused and the green frame appeared...the trick is to stay 2-3 seconds in this position because the sensor should observe the dark...with this trick the picture is good...I think that the sensor is obstructed by the 3 led light just before the autofocus and he feels that it is enough light and is adjusting the settings in a wrong way...with this trick he has enough time to "see" that it is not light.
try and share your opinions...I made some pictures with this trick and all are OK now
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Posted: 2007-12-27 22:32:35
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On 2007-12-27 22:32:35, negrescumari wrote:
hello,
it seems to be a firmware issue, not a hardware one because with a little trick I managed to take good photos in dark environment with auto settings. What I did was to use the autofocus, so I pushed the camera button half way down and then the camera focused and the green frame appeared...the trick is to stay 2-3 seconds in this position because the sensor should observe the dark...with this trick the picture is good...I think that the sensor is obstructed by the 3 led light just before the autofocus and he feels that it is enough light and is adjusting the settings in a wrong way...with this trick he has enough time to "see" that it is not light.
try and share your opinions...I made some pictures with this trick and all are OK now
Intersting... You have a point there.. gonna try and tell later...
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Posted: 2007-12-27 22:59:45
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On 2007-12-27 22:32:35, negrescumari wrote:
hello,
it seems to be a firmware issue, not a hardware one because with a little trick I managed to take good photos in dark environment with auto settings. What I did was to use the autofocus, so I pushed the camera button half way down and then the camera focused and the green frame appeared...the trick is to stay 2-3 seconds in this position because the sensor should observe the dark...with this trick the picture is good...I think that the sensor is obstructed by the 3 led light just before the autofocus and he feels that it is enough light and is adjusting the settings in a wrong way...with this trick he has enough time to "see" that it is not light.
try and share your opinions...I made some pictures with this trick and all are OK now
Hmm, if that is actually the problem, then that is perhaps why everyone is getting dark photos... I always have used this method to take pictures (ie. waiting for the green "OK" to take the picture by pressing half-shutter)... since this is what you do for digital cameras anyway... it's not like you just press the damn button to take the picture, might as well go back to your QCIF cell phone camera if you do that.
Hope you've actually identified the problem, so we can put this issue to rest
On the side note, if the update in Jan. doesn't solve everything or most issues by then, I will dump this phone for an N95... despite my hate for the S60 interface
[ This Message was edited by: obentou on 2007-12-27 22:13 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-27 23:11:58
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Good Evening people, well i seem to have started a good conversation and im glad that it isnt just me and people have started to notice the same problem.
I have been reading the comments for most of the day and tried most of them as well, however i still get dark pics.
But i think we all should work for SE as there fault and test team. We have done a faster and much better job than there team has. We have identified the fault and are not far of a soloution. So SE any chance of a few jobs ?
What has also amazed me is that people have pure passion for the K850i and i total admire that.
Even though im negative currently about it, i still luv my phone and want the best from the phone now readig all these comments.
Now i have tried the keeping the button held down for longer which doesnt make any difference on my phone, comments from @ iwantin does make sense. I think that there is some role reversal of the picture taking. eg when in light the pic becomes dark and when in dark the pic is light.
So if SE are reading this we may have a soloution.
Turn the plans for the software the other way round and read the plans then back to front.
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Posted: 2007-12-27 23:45:50
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Nice darreng...
Itīs really seemns weīre all sad abou these bugs and using our best to try to understand... what happens to cause this... Havenīt seen so good discucion of the same object looong time ago...
I Pray for God that SE can really fix it. Because after all the K850i is an increlibe phone. I had compared with a friend of mine that have an N95 8GB. Dosenīt have flash only poor led (worse than K850īs one) photos seens sharp but with no colors...
Off course to dont cause fight iīm not comparing the phones... just about photo etc... Two really diferent phones...
And yes i had tried the tip of our friend about holding the button before snap... didinīt worked either...
Maybe K850i is the most buggy SE phone o ever seen but i have faith that will be a major update in January/Febuary and corret mos of the issues before... They had done this before...Itīs doable...
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Posted: 2007-12-28 00:22:17
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I think the camera issues are a combination of things:
- Flash doesn't sync all the time.
- Poor design - bad positioning of light sensor. It's a phone, and people hold it differently than a camera. eg. sometimes I want to take pics in portrait but that is guaranteed to obstruct the sensor.
ps. I don't use the autofocus light. I hold the camera properly. Still I get dark pics every so often. I think there is some merit to waiting a while before taking the photo. However, the software should force you to wait if it needs time to adjust to the light... ?
I think the over-all performance is a bigger issue though. The K850i.. the Windows Vista of phones !
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Posted: 2007-12-28 00:25:29
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I dont know if people want to try the SEUS, As a few more people are now saying that the new firmware has been released.
R1DA038, and the camera ver 3.4 is an update from 2.9.
If people could feed back with the networks and branding if possible.
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Posted: 2007-12-28 00:36:12
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[ This Message was edited by: Xeneelk63 on 2009-01-08 15:13 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-28 00:46:18
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