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JK Posts: > 500

So u guys think they gonna attack Iran???
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Posted: 2006-01-15 08:55:47
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absinthebri Posts: 476

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On 2006-01-15 08:55:47, 786KBR wrote:
So u guys think they gonna attack Iran???


Nope.
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Posted: 2006-01-15 08:57:47
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

I think they have too much to lose and not enough to gain at this stage so I think it's very unlikely. I'm sure it's something the Bush administration would like to have a good enough excuse for, but they are pragmatic enough to realise it would be a mistake politically, and militarily they would get bogged down in another Vietnam.

Compared to Iraq, which was a walk in the park, Iran is much better prepared, has more will to resist than the Iraqi's, and has a much bigger and better disciplined army than Iraq had prior to either of the Gulf wars.
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Posted: 2006-01-15 09:24:57
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

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On 2006-01-15 04:44:46, absinthebri wrote:

And how many years after theeir 'withdrawal' did they actually withdraw?


As I said before, by the time Saigon fell in 1975, the military defeat was that of the South Vietnamese army.

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Certainly. The US has massive firepower at its disposal and could certainly wipe any country off the face of the earth (but at what cost?). But, as you say, there's more to winning wars than military battles.


I think that's the key point here. Whilst America had the ability to win the war, the political climate of the time can be argued to have constrained that ability.

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Certainly. War is but politics with force.


Clausewitz?

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Posted: 2006-01-16 00:56:34
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*Jojo* Posts: > 500

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On 2006-01-15 08:57:47, absinthebri wrote:
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On 2006-01-15 08:55:47, 786KBR wrote:
So u guys think they gonna attack Iran???


Nope.



I don't think so mate . . . if the US have attacked:

1. Vietnam
2. Iraq
3. Afghanistan

+ their VAST experience during the 2nd WW, then there's JUST NO reason why they won't be attacking - IRAN ! If they will be given the chance to attack the planet MARS, I think they will . . .
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Posted: 2006-01-16 01:38:49
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JK Posts: > 500

Yip I also think so, they not that stupid, but its all over the news that they might coz Irans not disclosing their Nuclear weapons projects and whatever WMD they got, similer to what happened with Iraq...
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Posted: 2006-01-16 08:20:48
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goldenface Posts: > 500

I believe time is the best option - wait for the current leader to be voted out. He is said to be deeply unpopular and the youth of todays Iran are far more modern in both their thinking and attitude towards the West.

Like has been said before the World needs Iran more than Iran needs the world as it is the worlds 4th biggest oil producer, but ask yourself this question - If Iran has such massive oil reserves then why would it need to develop Nuclear Power when it has all the energy producing capability it needs.?
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Posted: 2006-01-16 14:57:53
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absinthebri Posts: 476

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...but ask yourself this question - If Iran has such massive oil reserves then why would it need to develop Nuclear Power when it has all the energy producing capability it needs.?



It doesn't NEED nuclear power. Neither does the UK or the USA. It may well wish to develop nuclear weaponry, as it has every right to do.

And to think, the Big Five had 50 years to uphold the UN Charter and the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty but they chose not to. As always, we reap what we sow.
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Posted: 2006-01-16 15:11:14
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goldenface Posts: > 500

Well if Iran has the right to do so then every country in the world also has the right - is that not your opinion?

Is that not a bit worrying to you at all?

They estimate that Iran will have nuclear weapons building capability in about 6 years. Nuclear weapons in the hands of a leader who has said publicly that he would like to "wipe another country off the map" !!!!

Lets hope he isn't in power for much longer because with Pakistan, Afghanistan, Russia and Iraq on its border things look pretty grim to me.


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Posted: 2006-01-16 15:29:23
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axxxr Posts: > 500

I think every sovereign country in the world has the absolute to right to have nuclear weapons,and why not?..If the U.S and Isreal can have then why not other countrys aswell?..If the U.S has such an issue with Iran and and any other country from having a nuclear arsenal then they should set an example and get rid of their own ones first and make Israel do the same...Its such hypocracy on the part of the U.S.
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Posted: 2006-01-16 15:39:58
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