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@iqtidar,
It is US vs Russian cold war!
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Posted: 2007-08-20 06:06:00
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@laffen
I really doubt any civilised company is behind this, becaue that would damage the image of the company if it was discoverd.
and as you say, Esato was threatened, SE-nse was also attacked, so I think it's nothing that had to do with MR handling preproduction units, and as you may already know, sometimes a mobile company
intentionally leaks some info (like what happened with the N81 and N82) to investigate the different opinions about it, or to make a big fuss over the announcement.
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Posted: 2007-08-20 06:08:40
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@SMS
Yes I agree somewhat but a 'non-intentional' leak by a company can be very damaging which is why staff have to sign confidentiality agreements, as you may already know.
Intentional leaks do appear from time to time but if it is intentional it still is legal as far as the company is concerned and comes under the umbrella of marketing by stealth' and I suppose and is within the remit of company policy.
Companies releasing products to counteract each other is a game of cat & mouse with exact dates calculated to have the maximum effect, publicity wise etc. So it is not out of the question for an OEM to be implicated in the attacks - it must pee them off somewhat so see a planned announcement watered down because of an ill-intentioned leak.
Anyway, I'm glad MR is back I suppose all this will eventually come out in the wash.
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Posted: 2007-08-20 09:54:15
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@Goldenface
just like you, I always thought unintentional leaks damage companies because the info will reach competitors, but not after I read what Eldar (a one who's in the know) said here: (scroll down to see his comment)
http://www.intomobile.com/200[....]-down-his-images.html#comments
from Eldar's half-English words, you can also see how problematic he've been to mobile companies, not because he "leaks", but because he publish leaked photos from the internet in the news section, just like most mobile related sites do including esato.
and imho, an announcement can never be watered down by any leak whatsoever, how much people do you think see or even care to follow rumors? few hundereds scattered around the world, and the rest don't even know about the phone even after it's announced, untill it's available in the market.
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Posted: 2007-08-20 12:10:39
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Great to see MR back in action. But it was offline for a while earlier, but it's back again. Hopefully they've been able to stop the culprits.
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Posted: 2007-08-20 13:18:26
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i still cant access the forum...
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Posted: 2007-08-20 16:38:37
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On 2007-08-20 13:18:26, shaliron wrote:
Great to see MR back in action. But it was offline for a while earlier, but it's back again. Hopefully they've been able to stop the culprits.
Well the home page & the reviews have been up since yesterday but their is still no sign of the forum.
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Posted: 2007-08-20 18:10:43
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Glad to see that M-R up.
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Posted: 2007-08-20 18:22:17
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Hi all,
Well i still can't get it to open getting really annoyed now this has been going on for ages that must of been one seriously large attack and allegedly all over criticism of the iPhone unbelievable really. Just what is this world coming to when criticism leads to this. They don't have to agree and would of been better served debating the points and giving their opinion this just makes them look desperate and IMO pathetic and they really can't be that stupid as to of been able to launch this attack what a waste of brian power and time.
Marc
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Posted: 2007-08-21 10:15:09
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On 2007-08-21 10:15:09, Dogmann wrote:
Hi all,
Well i still can't get it to open getting really annoyed now this has been going on for ages that must of been one seriously large attack and allegedly all over criticism of the iPhone unbelievable really. Just what is this world coming to when criticism leads to this. They don't have to agree and would of been better served debating the points and giving their opinion this just makes them look desperate and IMO pathetic and they really can't be that stupid as to of been able to launch this attack what a waste of brian power and time.
Marc
funny, in the London Lite yesterday, one of the most read free papers in the UK, it was saying how you dont need to wait for the iphone to get a decent music playing phone. i cant remember what the headline was, but i wonder if there website will get DDOS'd???
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Posted: 2007-08-21 10:53:08
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