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Upgraded to the K850 last week. The first thing I noticed was that the middle soft key only worked intermittently - half the time it wouldn't respond when tapped, whereas the two outer soft keys worked fine. I discovered that using my thumb in a small sliding motion, downward from the screen over the middle soft key actually made it work 90% of the time. (I assumed this was a bug that would be fixed in a later firmware release.)

I've also noticed that when you rename a profile from within the profile "View & edit" mode, the profile name becomes corrupted with strange characters when you return to the profile list. Renaming it from the list (rather than going into "View & edit" mode) fixes the problem.

I turned the phone off for two hours the second night I had it, and when I turned it back on again, the handset wouldn't boot, instead cycling through powering the screen on and off, and then the keypad lighting up on and off, indefinitely. It appeared to have corrupted its own firmware, merely by having been switched off!

I took it back to CPW the next day and got a replacement. First thing I noticed was that the new handset was much more responsive, and the middle soft key could be tapped normally like the outer ones, without having to be stroked! The renaming profile bug remains, however.

[ This Message was edited by: dualist on 2007-10-22 12:19 ]
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Posted: 2007-10-22 13:17:47
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What else do you expect from a brand new Sony Ericsson phone, its going to have bugs with the firmware.

Id always wait at least a couple of months first so the bugs have been fixed before buying a new release of a phone.

SE have just rushed the phone out not fully tested as its getting nearer xmas & they just want sales numbers.
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Posted: 2007-10-22 13:35:51
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I've used many SE phones, but last year was on a D900. It never crashed, slowed nor even did something wrong. I never updated the firmware, and never had to restart it. What's more, I bought it within the first week of availability in the UK.

The 850 is a joke in comparison. Even the instruction book says you have to reboot it daily!

For anyone one who thinks this half finished firmware is acceptable, just take a look at Samsung.
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Posted: 2007-10-22 14:50:54
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No doubt SE's decline has started

have you read Eldar's review of SE's Walkman Flagship????===> Total disappointment

I think this forum should be closed!!!!
how come such forum should continue working, when the starter has returned his own phone??!!

SE is shooting in its own leg....
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Posted: 2007-10-22 14:53:12
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stupid SE... i hope that's a bug... otherwise i don't know what they are thinking.. yikes.. i might have to boycott SE products till they get back in gear..

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Posted: 2007-10-22 16:19:04
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they better hurry with that new firmware;s
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Posted: 2007-10-22 16:43:14
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Sony Ericsson couriered over a new k850i for me this morning and I have to say that it's nice to see it working properly (i.e. I can now access Applications and Games). Not sure how it broke before, so no way to know it won't happen again when I start messing around with it.

The touch-sensitive keys are much more responsive on this one. They work almost 95% of the time I press them. The bad thing with this is that it means there could be hardware issues on this phone - and that's not something a firmware update will fix.

I'm going to play around with the camera later to see if the sensors vary from phone to phone. I hope not!

Of course, all the other bugs I've mentioned will be present because it's still the same firmware. I can't believe they have mentioned rebooting the phone daily to save memory (and I've seen it with my own eyes) as this is not something you should need to do. It even suggests a reset of the settings if things go wrong, but - come on - why would you want to have to go through all that hassle for anything other than EXCEPTIONAL circumstances.

But, you know what, despite my rants (which I hope will only help ensure SE get off their ass and fix things) I think the phone is great. Besides the lack of the play/pause key (but I can use the Bluetooth watch for this), it's my ideal phone. If/when they sort things out, I can see myself having this is as my main phone.

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[ This Message was edited by: jmcomms on 2007-10-22 16:52 ]
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Posted: 2007-10-22 17:48:44
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Does anyone have the following problem---When selecting MEDIA then PICTURES, the phone turns itself off?
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Posted: 2007-10-22 21:38:27
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On 2007-10-22 13:17:47, dualist wrote:

Upgraded to the K850 last week. The first thing I noticed was that the middle soft key only worked intermittently - half the time it wouldn't respond when tapped, whereas the two outer soft keys worked fine. I discovered that using my thumb in a small sliding motion, downward from the screen over the middle soft key actually made it work 90% of the time. (I assumed this was a bug that would be fixed in a later firmware release.)

** I got my phone last Monday and I also noticed this, If you pulled your finger down then the middle button worked pretty much instanly. but pressing it and nothing really happend. The other 2 buttons were mega sensitve tho. I never thought any more about it.**


I turned the phone off for two hours the second night I had it, and when I turned it back on again, the handset wouldn't boot, instead cycling through powering the screen on and off, and then the keypad lighting up on and off, indefinitely. It appeared to have corrupted its own firmware, merely by having been switched off!

** Same problem. Had the phone on Monday and come Sat Morn, turning the phone on nothing happens. The phone keypad light comes on, then the screen and then the keypad light again and thats it. So I get my replacement tomorrow. Om hoping that the new one is ok **

Can you remember your old IMEI number and checked it wit your new one. Im going to check mine tomorrow to see how quick they have jumped in sequence.



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Posted: 2007-10-22 22:41:08
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The IMEI on the old phone was (first part removed) 032674-8

The new one, which is FAR more responsive ends 031629-3

So, going by that, it seems the new one is an earlier production model.

What this seems to suggest is the build quality varies quite a bit, which is worrying! On the old one the touch-keys were not responsive at times, but this seems fine all the time (perhaps the odd delay, but that seems to be down to the phone playing catch up).
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Posted: 2007-10-22 23:22:50
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