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Its as if the W900 started all of this, it was a great phone with very high specs for a Java phone BUT had SO MANY bugs and got discontinued in less than a year of being in the market,then everything started going kind of sour for SE with K800s dying, W850 bad build, and UIQ3 phones buggy firmware. I wonder how SE let this all happen, W900 was the 1st case where Firmware support was dropped so quickly and they dropped the phone and people had paid so much for it and they totaly left their W900 customers stranded i think thats where SE REALY blew it.
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Posted: 2007-11-28 12:38:18
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i have two things to say i have seen nothing from sony ericsson 2006-2007
modules walkman phone are at its worse i mean what then new w890i has a keypad changed with no auto focus or led light just 3.2 megapixel and the walkman 3. come on sony ericsson do you think we are going to go crazy for it or jump no because you want people to pay for your product either it good or bad well were not going to pay for your product tell we see the good product "with auto focus with led with good speaker and top platform and good keypads " if you cant i want you " se" to say to all the people and customer that you are only ripping of your customers into buying the product and telling your customers that your product is the best when it is not. Sony ericsson either produce good products or bye bye se.
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Posted: 2007-11-28 16:48:17
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Its interesting that some people are now just realizing that Sony Ericsson sucks plain and simple.

As a long time Nokia and Sony Ericsson user it had been clear to me since 2004 that Nokia is the mobile phone champion.
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Posted: 2007-11-29 00:52:00
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How can you say a few operators are offering faulty sets ? You think SE supply the crap ones to certain telcos and the perfect ones to others ??? Don't think so. And NO the operators software additions make no difference to the camera.

What a load of toss... I KNOW how to handle a camera. Been using DSLR's for a long time. Film before that. The K850 camera sucks. Images have way way too much red in the images, especially if the scene is bright. Cannot handle blue correctly at all.

Audiophiles ??? The N95 audio output is on par with iPod. Use it in the car all the time now and it sounds great. My Logic 7 system would really accentuate any hiss or distortion, it doesn't because its not there.

Anti SE ??? No. I bought SE for years. The last decent phone they made was the K800... since then its all been plastic tacky fashion phones in the Cybershot
range. Casing on some of the Walkman phones has been inspired, but being SE they limit the camera. No way will SE offer a best of class music AND camera phone. They want you to go one way or another, not both. Crazy marketing bull thats driven customers away.

Agree that certain models fit in certain classes. The N95 is the only one that is truly a class or three above any SE model. SE's smart phones are all business and carry crappy after thought cameras and music players. At least Nokia have the skills to produce a smart phone for business that also handles media properly.

And that last statement... Nokia camera phones will never be as good as SE ones... RUBBISH.

How come I had to have FOUR K850's and still did not have one that worked correctly.

I've had ONE N95 and its been impeccable.

Just waiting for new firmware - LOL, wait on.

Nokia have issued a minor release and a verision 2 of the N95 firmware in the same space of time that SE have issued NONE.


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Posted: 2007-11-29 02:13:53
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And if folks are finding P1i the best thing since sliced bread, let me be very candid and say that I found even the lowly Nokia 7710 more reliable, intuitive, and faster to use than the P1i.

SE has really blown it....
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Posted: 2007-11-29 03:29:59
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not too interested either with se's newer models so i'm also putting my upgrade options aside for the meantime.

anyway, i'm still very much satisfied with my year-old k610i. it does what i want it to do.
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Posted: 2007-11-29 04:34:26
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Call me a fanboy, whatever. I'm still keeping a small amount of hope that SE will come through. For now they've blown it!

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Posted: 2007-11-29 04:52:44
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Agree

N95-8GB is not without weakness, but overall it is a value for money if were to compare with K850.

All is not lost for SE just yet. Just dont launch too similar sub-quality buggy products again.
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Posted: 2007-11-29 09:15:27
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Hi all

Just reading the N82 preview over at mobile-review.com and although most of you will have seen this or be aware of it i thought this quick table summed up perfectly the "N82 vs K850i" argument (or lack there of). and further reinforced the subject heading in this post & SE's very poor 2007 showing with their prospects not looking too good for 2008 either?

Nokia N82 SonyEricsson K850i
Size (mm) 112x50.2x17.3 102x48x17
weight (grams) 114 118
Display 2.4", TFT, QVGA, 16M 2.2", TFT, QVGA, 262K
Memory 100 Mb 40 Mb
Memory cards microSD microSD or M2
Battery Life 1.5-2 days 2-3 days
3.5mm jack On the casing Adapter required
Camera 5 Mpix, lens cover 5 Mpix
Flash Xenon Xenon + LED
Video record VGA, up to 30 FPS QCIF, 15 FPS
Stereo-speakers Yes No
Platform S60 3td Edition FP1 A200
Price 450 Euro 450 Euro

What strikes me straight away is that the K850i, as SE's flagship camera/imaging phone the N82 in my eyes beats it (or at least equals) on all fronts: Screen size, colours, lens cover & video recording in a lighter phone that costs the same price!?.......then add into the equation the N82 is a smartphone.......no contest really is there?
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Posted: 2007-11-29 12:08:04
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without doubt N82 is better than K850. i seriously consider N82 for next phone after my K810.
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Posted: 2007-11-29 12:27:42
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